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NagaSkaki

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Recently I was looking for a simple chessprogram with personalities and I remembered NagaSkaki, that I had years ago.
The site of the author isn't online anymore, but thanks to the Internet Archive WaybackMachine, I found it at http://web.archive.org/web/201812211005 ... ory/chess/
Downloading there isn't possibe anymore, but can be done at:
https://m.majorgeeks.com/files/details/nagaskaki.html
Installing isn't necessary, just download and unzip and you can play, even from an USB-stick.
There are 10 personalities, but you can also make your one ones and save them within the program.
The rating of the latest version (5.12) is 2188, according to https://ccrl.chessdom.com/ccrl/4040/cgi ... +opponents

I downloaded the progam and am enjoying it now. I intend to elo-test the personalities with Hiarcs ("Match player strength").

Here is what the author says(08-05-2012):

"NagaSkaki is a freeware chess program for Windows.

What makes NagaSkaki different from most other chess programs is the personalities. Some personalities play so weak, almost everybody should be able to beat them while others are strong enough to beat most chess players.

This makes it a perfect program to learn and enjoy chess, cause who likes to always lose against a computer?

To get a rough idea of the strengths of the different personalities, we’ve run a little tournament and here are the results:
  • Personality/ Score/ Rating
    NagaSkaki 4.00/ 65/74 / 2300/
    Zara / 64.5/74 / 2297/
    Pete Damn / 53/74/ 2126/
    Joan/ 46/74 / 2075/
    Neo/ 46/74/ 2069/
    Raspoetin/ 44.5/74/ 2051/
    Clair/ 24/74/ 1876/
    Reckless Dave/ 19/74 / 1825/
    Dr. Felix / 5.5/74 / 1599 or less/
    Miss Molly/ 2.5/74 / 1472 or less/


Notes:
We’ve assumed that NagaSkaki has a rating of 2300
The rating of the last two personalities is probably even lower, because they could only win against each other and not even draw a single game against the rest"
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Thanks! I love how it plays on Windows 10 just fine. I'll match it up against my dedicated units soon.
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After the first 10 games against Hiarcs at 5 s per move, the personality NagaSkaki has a rating of 2393, 8 wins and 2 draws in game 9 and 10.
Description of this personality:
"This is default and (hopefully) the strongest personality. Personality ranking: 1"
Personality Settings:
Positional 120, Mobility 100, King Safety 100, Passed Pawns 80, Blunder Factor 0, Playing Speed 100,
Value of Pawn 100, Knight 310, Bishop 320, Rook 500, Queen 1000.
These are the kind of values that can be used when creating an own personality.
I will play 10 more games so that we get a more stable rating.
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Hi Tom

Embarrassingly the old Challenger pieces are mine.

If you would like the updated pieces shown in the following screenshot please PM me with your email address.

Regards
Bryan

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Hi Brian, I am satisfied with the standard pieces NagaSkaki uses.
There are 5 sets with pieces and I like the Challenger Pieces most.
I made a screenshot and saved it on my pc, but I couldn't find a way to upload it here.
In the meantime, 12 games have been played and NagaSkaki has now 2373 elo (+9 -1 = 2). Eight more games to go, but I was busy with other things the past few days.
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Do you test by moving per mouse or do you use uci or autoplayer?!

The ratings you refer to, they are on your PC, others will have other ratings.
What seems like a fairy tale today may be reality tomorrow.
Here we have a fairy tale of the day after tomorrow....
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Both Hiarcs and NagaSkaki play on my laptop.
The programs are side by side on my screen and I play with the mouse.
So both programs play with the same hardware and software (Windows 10).
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I see. But the laptop has which cpu ?!
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Here are the specifications that I found in my system information:
Intel(R) Core(TM)i3-7100U CPU @ 2.40 GHz, 2400 MHz, 2 core('s), 4 logical processors.
Pff, hard to type that over without mistakes. :)
The programs play both without pondering.
Two more games played this evening, score NagaSkaki is now 2440 (+11 -1 =2)
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After 20 games, personality NagaSkaki ends with a score of 2439 (77% / +14 -3 =3), not bad.
The programmer estimated him at 2300.

Brian Whitby gave me some information about the programmer. His name is Neels Groenewald from South Africa and here is his site from 2002-2003.
http://mysite.mweb.co.za/residents/loll ... epage.html

Next candidate is Miss Molly, the weakest at the bottom of the list, with an estimated elo of 1472 or less.
The programmer: "Miss Molly only recently discovered chess and it shows! Personality ranking: 10"
Personality Settings:
Positional -50, Mobility -200, King Safety 60, Passed Pawns -50, Blunder Factor 500, Playing Speed 0,
Value of Pawn 300, Knight 600, Bishop 320, Rook 300, Queen 400.

I'm curious if she can score at least half a point.
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Miss Molly did it, earned her first point. :D
Here is the game.
I was positively surprised by her final move 76.... b1=Q.
Many programs, playing at a low level, choose for minorpromotion, which is not realistic because a low rated player wil usually choose a Queen.

[Date "2020.12.24"]
[Round "9"]
[White "HIARCS 14 WCSC"]
[Black "NagaSkaki Miss Molly"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A06"]
[TimeControl "m5000"]
[WhiteElo "704"]

1.Nf3 d5 2.c3 Bf5 3.b3 Bxb1 4.Rxb1 Nc6 5.Ra1 Qd6 6.h3 Qf6 7.g4 Qxf3 8.exf3 f6 9.d4 e5 10.dxe5 Nge7 11.exf6 gxf6 12.Rb1 O-O-O 13.Qe2 Ne5 14.Kd1 N5c6 15.Kc2 Bg7 16.Bb2 Ng6 17.a4 Rhe8 18.Qd2 Nh4 19.Rc1 Nxf3 20.Kd1 Re6 21.Ba3 Re4 22.Rc2 Na5 23.Qe2 Rxe2 24.Bxe2 Ne5 25.Rh2 Nxb3 26.f3 Bf8 27.Bb4 Bxb4 28.cxb4 Nd4 29.Rc5 Ndxf3 30.Rf2 Ng5 31.Ra5 Nc6 32.Rb5 Nxh3 33.Rxf6 Nxb4 34.Rxb4 Ng5 35.Rb5 Ne4 36.Bd3 Nxf6 37.Bf1 b6 38.Rb2 Nxg4 39.Rb3 Nf2+ 40.Ke1 Ne4 41.Rb1 Nc5 42.Rb5 Nxa4 43.Kf2 Rf8+ 44.Ke1 Rxf1+ 45.Kxf1 d4 46.Rg5 Nc3 47.Rg1 Na4 48.Rg3 c5 49.Rg8+ Kb7 50.Rg1 h6 51.Rg3 Ka6 52.Kg2 b5 53.Rg4 h5 54.Rg6+ Kb7 55.Kh1 d3 56.Rc6 Kxc6 57.Kg1 b4 58.Kf1 d2 59.Ke2 Nc3+ 60.Kxd2 Ne4+ 61.Ke2 Kd5 62.Ke3 h4 63.Ke2 Nc3+ 64.Ke1 Kc4 65.Kf1 Kb3 66.Kg2 Kc4 67.Kf3 a5 68.Ke3 Kd5 69.Kf2 Kc6 70.Ke3 Kd5 71.Kf4 Ne2+ 72.Kf3 Nc3 73.Ke3 Kc4 74.Kf3 b3 75.Ke3 b2 76.Kd2 b1=Q. Hiarcs resigns, 0-1.
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And a second point in a very short game, Hiarcs playing at 737 elo.

[Date "2020.12.24"]
[Round "12"]
[White "10. Miss Molly 0.05"]
[Black "HIARCS 14 WCSC"]
[Result "1-0"]
[BlackElo "737"]
[ECO "A20"]
[TimeControl "m5000"]
[WhiteElo "?"]

1.c4 e5 2.Nf3 Bb4 3.Nxe5 Kf8 4.Qb3 c5 5.Qf3 Ne7 6.Qxf7# 1-0
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Miss Molly and Hiarcs just played their 18th game in 191 moves, ending in a draw because of the 50-move rule.
Miss Molly managed to make three(!) underpromotions into a Knight, movenumber 102, 133 and 141.
End position: white Kc3 Nb3 Nd3 Nb5 Nd5, black Kf8
I bought my first chesscomputer in 1981 and saw many comp-comp games, but never something like this.

For who wants to see the whole game, here it is. Have fun.

[Date "2020.12.24"]
[Round "18"]
[White "NagaSkaki Miss Molly"]
[Black "HIARCS 14 WCSC"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[BlackElo "674"]
[ECO "D06"]
[TimeControl "m5000"]
[WhiteElo "?"]

1.d4 d5 2.c4 Nf6 3.Qc2 Nc6 4.cxd5 Nxd4 5.Qa4+ c6 6.Qxd4 Qxd5 7.Qxf6 exf6 8.Nc3 Bb4 9.Bd2 Qf5 10.Nd1 Bxd2+ 11.Kxd2 Qb5 12.Nf3 Qa4 13.Nc3 Qc4 14.Re1 f5 15.e3 Qg4 16.e4 fxe4 17.Rxe4+ Be6 18.Rxg4 Bxg4 19.Ne1 f5 20.f3 O-O-O+ 21.Kc2 Bxf3 22.Nxf3 b6 23.Ne5 c5 24.Nb5 Rde8 25.Nxa7+ Kb8 26.Nec6+ Kb7 27.b4 g6 28.bxc5 bxc5 29.Bd3 Reg8 30.Rd1 Ka8 31.Bxf5 gxf5 32.g3 Rg5 33.Nb5 Rb8 34.Nc7+ Kb7 35.Rd7 Kxc6 36.Rxh7 Rb5 37.Rf7 Rb1 38.Kxb1 Kb7 39.Nd5+ Ka8 40.Nb6+ Kb8 41.Nd7+ Kc7 42.Nxc5+ Kd6 43.Nb7+ Ke5 44.Re7+ Kd4 45.Rf7 Rg4 46.Nd6 Kc3 47.Nxf5 Kb4 48.Rb7+ Kc3 49.Rc7+ Kd3 50.Rf7 Kc3 51.Rc7+ Kb4 52.Rb7+ Kc4 53.Ne3+ Kc5 54.Nxg4 Kd6 55.Rd7+ Kxd7 56.Ne3 Kc7 57.Nf5 Kd8 58.Nd4 Kc8 59.h3 Kb7 60.Ne6 Kc8 61.Nd4 Kb7 62.g4 Kc8 63.Nf3 Kc7 64.Ne5 Kc8 65.a3 Kd8 66.Ka1 Ke8 67.Ka2 Kd8 68.Kb2 Kc8 69.Kb1 Kd8 70.Kb2 Kc7 71.Nd3 Kc8 72.h4 Kd8 73.Kc3 Ke8 74.Ne1 Kd8 75.Nd3 Ke8 76.Nf4 Kf7 77.Kd2 Kf8 78.Ne2 Ke8 79.Nd4 Kf7 80.Nf3 Kf8 81.Kc1 Kg8 82.Ne5 Kf8 83.Nd3 Ke8 84.Kb2 Kd8 85.Kc2 Ke8 86.Kc3 Kd8 87.Kd4 Ke8 88.Ne1 Kf8 89.Nd3 Ke8 90.Ne1 Kd8 91.Nf3 Ke8 92.Ke4 Kf8 93.a4 Ke8 94.Nh2 Kd8 95.Nf3 Ke8 96.Kd3 Kd8 97.h5 Kc7 98.Kc2 Kc8 99.Ng1 Kd8 100.h6 Kc7 101.h7 Kb7 102.h8=N Kc7 103.Kc3 Kc8 104.Kc4 Kb8 105.Kc3 Ka7 106.g5 Ka6 107.Kb4 Ka7 108.Nf3 Kb8 109.Nf7 Kc7 110.Kb3 Kb6 111.Ng1 Kc6 112.Kc4 Kb7 113.Kb3 Kb6 114.Nf3 Ka5 115.Ng1 Kb6 116.Nd8 Ka5 117.Nf3 Ka6 118.Ne5 Ka5 119.Nc4+ Ka6 120.Kb2 Ka7 121.Nc6+ Ka8 122.Kc2 Kb7 123.Ne7 Ka7 124.Nc6+ Kb7 125.N4e5 Kc7 126.Kd2 Kd6 127.a5 Kc5 128.Na7 Kd4 129.Ng6 Kc4 130.a6 Kb3 131.Nc6 Ka3 132.a7 Ka4 133.a8=N Kb5 134.Nce5 Ka5 135.Ke2 Kb4 136.Nf4 Ka5 137.Nf7 Kb4 138.g6 Ka4 139.Kd1 Kb4 140.g7 Kc5 141.g8=N Kb5 142.Nc7+ Kc5 143.Na8 Kc6 144.Ke1 Kd7 145.Kd1 Kc6 146.Ke2 Kb5 147.Ng5 Kc4 148.Nfe6 Kb5 149.Nf7 Kb4 150.Kd3 Kb5 151.Nf6 Ka5 152.Kc4 Ka6 153.Nh8 Ka7 154.Nac7 Kb6 155.Ng6 Kb7 156.Kc3 Kb8 157.Nfd5 Ka7 158.Nef8 Kb7 159.Ngf4 Kb8 160.Nd3 Kc8 161.Ne1 Kb7 162.Nd3 Kb8 163.Nd7+ Ka7 164.Kb2 Kb7 165.Ne1 Kc8 166.Nc5 Kd8 167.Nc2 Kc8 168.N7a6 Kd8 169.Nb6 Ke8 170.Nc8 Kf7 171.Na7 Kg7 172.Ka1 Kh6 173.Nb5 Kg6 174.Ka2 Kh6 175.Nbd4 Kh7 176.Ne4 Kh8 177.Nec5 Kg8 178.Nf5 Kh8 179.Nab4 Kh7 180.Nbd3 Kh8 181.Kb3 Kh7 182.Nfe3 Kh8 183.Kc3 Kg7 184.Nd4 Kg8 185.Nb5 Kh8 186.Nb3 Kh7 187.Ndc1 Kg6 188.Nd3 Kg7 189.Nd5 Kg8 190.Nb2 Kf8 191.Nd3 1/2-1/2 (50-move rule)
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NagaSkaki vs. TASC R40

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I decided to pit NagaSkaki, running on my Gaming PC, against TASC R40. Game 1 went to NagaSkaki. Opening was a Sicilian Defense, French Variation. The game was closed for the longest time, but NagaSkaki broke through with an amazing Kingside pawn push. The tactics were such fun to watch I played it to mate.

In this position, White (NagaSkaki) played...

[fen]3qr1k1/1b4p1/1p6/p1pn2pP/P2pNp1N/1P1P1P2/2P4Q/6RK w - - 0 57[/fen]

...57. h6!

Here's the game: https://lichess.org/aFI6QxCx
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After 20 games, Miss Molly scored 632 elo (15%, +2 -16 =2), better than I expected.

Next candidate is Dr Felix with an estimated elo of 1599 or less.
The programmer: "The result of another one of Prof. Chessterniks crazy experiments- a cat playing chess! Personality ranking: 9"
Personality Settings:
Positional -500, Mobility 400, King Safety -300, Passed Pawns 900, Blunder Factor 800, Playing Speed 10,
Value of Pawn 300, Knight 300, Bishop 300, Rook 300, Queen 300.

Can that cat score better than Miss Molly's 3 out of 20?
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