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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:16 pm    Post subject: Tinkering with Novag UCB... Reply with quote

... and Sargon II on the Apple II.

I have reverse engineered a bit Sargon II on the Apple II to make it exchange moves and receive some commands (choice of colors, level, switch to graphics)through the serial port, which allowed me to connect it to my Novag Universal Chessboard:

https://youtu.be/HjTEKvogtpk

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Tinkering with Novag UCB... Reply with quote

Alain wrote:
... and Sargon II on the Apple II.

I have reverse engineered a bit Sargon II on the Apple II to make it exchange moves and receive some commands (choice of colors, level, switch to graphics)through the serial port, which allowed me to connect it to my Novag Universal Chessboard:

https://youtu.be/HjTEKvogtpk

-Alain


Hi Alain,

Wow would be fantastic if you could make old home pc programs work on Novag Universal Chess Board.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Tinkering with Novag UCB... Reply with quote

spacious_mind wrote:
Wow would be fantastic if you could make old home pc programs work on Novag Universal Chess Board.


this is unlikely: I am a 6502 guy, that's why Par Excellence & Milano are my favorites Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: apple commands Reply with quote

Hi Alain,

Always with technology and for those who are accustomed to the commands of Pc-microsoft, these you typed is a torture to understand.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Tinkering with Novag UCB... Reply with quote

Alain wrote:
spacious_mind wrote:
Wow would be fantastic if you could make old home pc programs work on Novag Universal Chess Board.


this is unlikely: I am a 6502 guy, that's why Par Excellence & Milano are my favorites Smile

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Alain


That's what I meant Smile Z80, 6502 and 68000 Smile Sinclair, Commodores, Atari's and Apples....but no Oranges!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an Apple IIc plus. Brings back memories.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Murat wrote:
That's an Apple IIc plus. Brings back memories.

Yup, in fact I was able to attend this year a gathering around the Apple II, Kansas Fest where we were 100 during a week ! And hacking Sargon was my entry in the small hack competition there.

spacious_mind wrote:
That's what I meant Smile Z80, 6502 and 68000 Smile Sinclair, Commodores, Atari's and Apples....but no Oranges!


In fact, my initial goal was to be able to automate program vs program games and maybe play Apple II vs dedicated machines but I don't think that the Apple II's programs have any change against a dedicated machine with a serial port: I think that in all games I played between Sargon III on the Apple II and the Par Excellence, Par won. Dedicated with serial port are even stronger...

To make a long story short, I'll try to hack into other Apple II programs, I am not even sure to succeed here. Machines that I don't know so well are non-starter: you have to reverse engineer assembly code to find where it reads and output moves, so no Sinclair, Commodore ou Atari either, at least not by me Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alain wrote:
Murat wrote:
That's an Apple IIc plus. Brings back memories.

Yup, in fact I was able to attend this year a gathering around the Apple II, Kansas Fest where we were 100 during a week ! And hacking Sargon was my entry in the small hack competition there.

spacious_mind wrote:
That's what I meant Smile Z80, 6502 and 68000 Smile Sinclair, Commodores, Atari's and Apples....but no Oranges!


In fact, my initial goal was to be able to automate program vs program games and maybe play Apple II vs dedicated machines but I don't think that the Apple II's programs have any change against a dedicated machine with a serial port: I think that in all games I played between Sargon III on the Apple II and the Par Excellence, Par won. Dedicated with serial port are even stronger...

To make a long story short, I'll try to hack into other Apple II programs, I am not even sure to succeed here. Machines that I don't know so well are non-starter: you have to reverse engineer assembly code to find where it reads and output moves, so no Sinclair, Commodore ou Atari either, at least not by me Sad


Hi Alain,

Yes, these old home computers at 1 Mhz just don't have the speed to beat a Par Ex. I collected a few Apple computers as well. I have the IIc, IIe and II plus.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the 6502, or at least I did back in the day. I learned to program (in assembler) on a Rockwell AIM-65 back in the late seventies. I used 6502's in a few industrial controllers I designed in the 80's. Then I learned about microcontrollers, and went in a different direction...

There's a company that makes kits that recreate some of the classic computers such as Apple II, MOS-65 (I think that's what it was called), and a few others, using new boards and done in miniature (though fully functional). You could possibly run old games on those. I'll try to find the URL and post it here.
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