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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schachspieler wrote:

There are worldwide no shipping-costs at Topschach, if the order is higher than 50,-Ç.


If that is correct then I could have saved $30-$40 in USA by buying from Topschach, assuming that Topschach would have removed the 19% Mehrwertsteuer from the price and assuming that the exchange rate was favorable which it probably wouldn't be.

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PostPosted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spacious_mind wrote:


assuming that Topschach would have removed the 19% Mehrwertsteuer from the price


i ordered the extra set of MCGE pieces from Topschsach today
i was charged NO VAT and NO Shipping costs

its an unusual site
they sell old chess computers and even program eproms
prices for these items seemed very high

worth a look though Regards
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve B wrote:


i ordered the extra set of MCGE pieces from Topschsach today
i was charged NO VAT and NO Shipping costs

its an unusual site
they sell old chess computers and even program eproms
prices for these items seemed very high

work a look though Regards
Steve

Just did a search on" Topschsach", but didn't do much good. Steve, have
you got a site address for them?
thanks....
Larry
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Steve B wrote:


i ordered the extra set of MCGE pieces from Topschsach today
i was charged NO VAT and NO Shipping costs

its an unusual site
they sell old chess computers and even program eproms
prices for these items seemed very high

work a look though Regards
Steve

Just did a search on" Topschsach", but didn't do much good. Steve, have
you got a site address for them?
thanks....
Larry


Here you go Larry.

http://www.topschach.de/
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spacious_mind wrote:
Larry wrote:
Steve B wrote:


i ordered the extra set of MCGE pieces from Topschsach today
i was charged NO VAT and NO Shipping costs

its an unusual site
they sell old chess computers and even program eproms
prices for these items seemed very high

work a look though Regards
Steve

Just did a search on" Topschsach", but didn't do much good. Steve, have
you got a site address for them?
thanks....
Larry

Man, was that fast!
Thanks Nick....

Here you go Larry.

http://www.topschach.de/

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just went to the Niggemann chess site in Germany at:
https://www.schachversand.de/startneue2.htm
and noticed that they say the initial production run of Millenium
Exclusives has sold out. They won't have any more until July
or so. This is good news... it shows us that the interest in the
dedicateds is alive and well. Maybe the buying chess public are
coming to the realization that chess is meant to be played three
dimensionally, ie, on a physical board with real pieces. Of course
a real wooden computer chess set also has furniture value. Factoring
in inflation, the value of top chess computers has never been better.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
They won't have any more until July
or so.

Hot off the press!!... the July production run will be about
30 elo stronger than the one you guys just bought.
Just kidding regards....
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Larry wrote:
They won't have any more until July
or so.

Hot off the press!!... the July production run will be about
30 elo stronger than the one you guys just bought.
Just kidding regards....
Larry


Larry
You should have kept the joke going for a while👍
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
Hot off the press!!... the July production run will be about
30 elo stronger than the one you guys just bought.
Just kidding regards....
Larry


That's it, I'm definitely waiting then, lol

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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:
I just went to the Niggemann chess site in Germany
and noticed that they say the initial production run of Millenium
Exclusives has sold out. They won't have any more until July
or so. This is good news... it shows us that the interest in the
dedicateds is alive and well.
Maybe the buying chess public are
coming to the realization that chess is meant to be played three
dimensionally, ie, on a physical board with real pieces. Of course
a real wooden computer chess set also has furniture value. Factoring
in inflation, the value of top chess computers has never been better.
Larry


Niggemann had just 8 Exclusive in stock. He missed to preorder enough at Millennium.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:05 pm    Post subject: chess Reply with quote

What about the guy selling this computer on ebay from classicchessendgames.com 549 + 40.65. He has 5 available. Nobody likes this guy??


curiosity killed the cat regards


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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2017 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: chess Reply with quote

chesspcmac wrote:
What about the guy selling this computer on ebay from classicchessendgames.com 549 + 40.65. He has 5 available. Nobody likes this guy??


curiosity killed the cat regards


mike


Hi Mike,

It appears not, that's the guy on eBay I was referring to earlier in this thread.

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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 12:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry wrote:

. it shows us that the interest in the
dedicateds is alive and well. Maybe the buying chess public are
coming to the realization that chess is meant to be played three
dimensionally, ie, on a physical board with real pieces. .


Imagine for a moment that the PC Engine takeover of computer chess in the 1990's never occurred?
all of the money,attention and progress that shifted away from the dedicated chess computer and towards the PC engine would not have occurred
in less then two years we see a traditional dedicated chess program(Genius) go from 2300 to 2400 Elo
imagine if we had not lost those precious 20+ years of progress
dedicated computers today would be able to give minor piece odds to

Magnus Carlsen Regards
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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
dedicated computers today would be able to give minor piece odds to


Probably true, but would any of us "mere mortals" stand a chance against it?
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Schachspieler wrote:
Larry wrote:
I just went to the Niggemann chess site in Germany
and noticed that they say the initial production run of Millenium
Exclusives has sold out. They won't have any more until July
or so. This is good news... it shows us that the interest in the
dedicateds is alive and well.
Maybe the buying chess public are
coming to the realization that chess is meant to be played three
dimensionally, ie, on a physical board with real pieces. Of course
a real wooden computer chess set also has furniture value. Factoring
in inflation, the value of top chess computers has never been better.
Larry


Niggemann had just 8 Exclusive in stock. He missed to preorder enough at Millennium.


Fortunately the Topschach-boy ordered much more and is selling now the rest of the inititial production for a nice price Wink
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