The A.R.B Chess System - Silicon Proof!
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Re: The A.R.B Chess System - Silicon Proof!
Anthony please can you keep your posts in the existing threads no need to start a new one for each post. Thanks!Anthony.R.Brown wrote:The A.R.B Chess System - Silicon Proof!
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Regards Anthony.
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MR BROWN - I hope you read this message
You are not a very smart man ...
YOU ARE A GENIUS !!!
I have been examining your posts on the ARB and I can see that the reason I win some of the games against computers is because, once the computer runs out of BOOK moves and constructive things to do - many times they start to make ridiculous moves that do only harm to their position (which I have stated). I have had the thoughts about this for a very long time - but you break it down so well in your explanations as to make it crystal clear. YOU have made a system out of it and I applaud you.
You can tell when they have reached the point of "I have nothing to do and I pass" by observing a meaningless move such as King to h8 or h1 for no good reason. Or a "mysterious " rook move - Of course you have to play pretty darn well to reach this point but your system MAKES it MUCH easier.
Thanks to YOUR theory, there is no more mystery! Now, I know exactly why they make weak moves - they ARE weak to a certain extent. Like you said , no more tactics and they are done. I am somewhat disappointed by them. But , I know many people who can ONLY attack and have no understanding of REAL chess either. You stop the attack ing and they are finished and play as a weak computer , wandering into a lost position.
I am strong enough to crush the stand alone computers tactically and really enjoy playing this way and you can look at some of my games I have posted vs 2250xl, Vancouver, and more - the problem is beating those damn software cheating programs. Now I have a new weapon - not my preferred style at all so i will continue to enjoy the tabletop stand alone chess games. Knowing that if I have to play fritz , I HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO WIN OR DRAW using your ideas. I play the software very little because it is NOT really fun because I generally can't sacrifice or play gambits - or even an open game.
It is ABSURD for us to play against table bases of endgames - I think you mentioned - what if the silicon beast can just connect the opening with the end and not have to play at all - we are just playing against HUMAN analysis. I just can't say enough so I will end it here. High PRAISES to you MR. BROWN
FUNNY thing happened to me the FIRST time I tried to play ARB - the damn computer played f4 so I was forced to play my usual FROM's Gambit
- which I slaughtered the computer with - but that was not what I wanted to play - today I shall try again and maybe actually play the ARB.
What is your plan for pawn to f4 or c4 ?
WHEN you write your book (I mean this) I would like to request an autographed copy PLEASE.
I am an IM and I want your book regards
Dr. Queeg
You are not a very smart man ...
YOU ARE A GENIUS !!!
I have been examining your posts on the ARB and I can see that the reason I win some of the games against computers is because, once the computer runs out of BOOK moves and constructive things to do - many times they start to make ridiculous moves that do only harm to their position (which I have stated). I have had the thoughts about this for a very long time - but you break it down so well in your explanations as to make it crystal clear. YOU have made a system out of it and I applaud you.
You can tell when they have reached the point of "I have nothing to do and I pass" by observing a meaningless move such as King to h8 or h1 for no good reason. Or a "mysterious " rook move - Of course you have to play pretty darn well to reach this point but your system MAKES it MUCH easier.
Thanks to YOUR theory, there is no more mystery! Now, I know exactly why they make weak moves - they ARE weak to a certain extent. Like you said , no more tactics and they are done. I am somewhat disappointed by them. But , I know many people who can ONLY attack and have no understanding of REAL chess either. You stop the attack ing and they are finished and play as a weak computer , wandering into a lost position.
I am strong enough to crush the stand alone computers tactically and really enjoy playing this way and you can look at some of my games I have posted vs 2250xl, Vancouver, and more - the problem is beating those damn software cheating programs. Now I have a new weapon - not my preferred style at all so i will continue to enjoy the tabletop stand alone chess games. Knowing that if I have to play fritz , I HAVE A GOOD CHANCE TO WIN OR DRAW using your ideas. I play the software very little because it is NOT really fun because I generally can't sacrifice or play gambits - or even an open game.
It is ABSURD for us to play against table bases of endgames - I think you mentioned - what if the silicon beast can just connect the opening with the end and not have to play at all - we are just playing against HUMAN analysis. I just can't say enough so I will end it here. High PRAISES to you MR. BROWN
FUNNY thing happened to me the FIRST time I tried to play ARB - the damn computer played f4 so I was forced to play my usual FROM's Gambit
- which I slaughtered the computer with - but that was not what I wanted to play - today I shall try again and maybe actually play the ARB.
What is your plan for pawn to f4 or c4 ?
WHEN you write your book (I mean this) I would like to request an autographed copy PLEASE.
I am an IM and I want your book regards
Dr. Queeg
Only he who never plays, never loses
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[Event "The A.R.B Chess System - Silicon Proof!"]
[Date "2013.08.28"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Computer-?"]
[White-Elo "3000"]
[Black "Computer-?"]
[Black-Elo "3000"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "Extreme! Per Move"]
[Annotator "Anthony.R.Brown"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2
Bb7 9. d5 e5 10. a4 a5 11. Bb5+ Nd7 12. Ne1 g5 13. Qe2 Ne7 14. Nd3 O-O 15.
b3 f5 16. f3 f4 17. Bc1 Ng6 18. Bb2 Qe7 19. Nf2 Qf7 20. Rad1 h5 21. Nh3 Bh6
22. Kh1 Nf6 23. Nf2 Qg7 24. Rg1 Nh4 25. Nd3 g4 26. Qe1 Bg5 27. Qf2 Ng6 28.
Qd2 Kh8 29. Rgf1 Bh6 30. Qe1 Rad8 31. b4 axb4 32. Nxb4 Rg8 33. Rg1 Ra8 34.
Ne2 Nh7 35. Nc6 Ng5 36. Rd3 Qf6 37. Qf1 Nh4 38. Ncd4 Kh7 39. Qe1 gxf3 40.
gxf3 Bc8 41. Qxh4 Nh3 42. Qe1 Nxg1 43. Nxg1 exd4 44. Bxd4 Qg5 45. Qf2 Bg7
46. Bc6 Rb8 47. c3 Be5 48. Bb5 Rg7 49. Rd2 Qe7 50. Qf1 Bd7 51. Nh3 Bxh3 52.
Qxh3 Kh6 53. Qe6+ Qxe6 54. dxe6 Rbg8 55. Bf2 Bxc3 56. Rc2 Bf6 57. h3 c5 58.
Bc4 Rd8 59. Rd2 Ra7 60. Bb5 Kg7 61. Kg2 Re7 62. Bd7 Rexd7 63. exd7 Rxd7 64.
Rd5 Rd8 65. Kf1 Be5 66. a5 Rb8 67. axb6 Kf6 68. Ke2 Rxb6 69. Rd2 Ke6 70.
Ra2 Rb3 71. Rd2 Ra3 72. Rd3 Bc3 73. Rd5 Ra2+ 74. Kf1 c4 75. Rxh5 Bf6 76.
Rh6 c3 77. Be1 Ra1 78. Ke2 c2 79. Bd2 c1=Q 80. Bxc1 Rxc1 81. h4 Rc2+ 82.
Ke1 Rh2 83. h5 Ke5 84. Rh7 Bh4+ 85. Kf1 Rf2+ 86. Kg1 Rxf3 87. Kh2 Rg3 88.
Rf7 Bf6 89. h6 Rg6 90. h7 Bh8 91. Rf8 Rh6+ 92. Kg2 Rxh7
93. Kf3 Rh3+ {(Rh7-h3+) +M61/24} 0-1
[Date "2013.08.28"]
[Origin "Great Britain"]
[White "Computer-?"]
[White-Elo "3000"]
[Black "Computer-?"]
[Black-Elo "3000"]
[Opening "The A.R.B Chess System"]
[Time "Extreme! Per Move"]
[Annotator "Anthony.R.Brown"]
1. e4 e6 2. d4 d6 3. Nf3 h6 4. Nc3 a6 5. Bd3 g6 6. O-O b6 7. Be3 Bg7 8. Qd2
Bb7 9. d5 e5 10. a4 a5 11. Bb5+ Nd7 12. Ne1 g5 13. Qe2 Ne7 14. Nd3 O-O 15.
b3 f5 16. f3 f4 17. Bc1 Ng6 18. Bb2 Qe7 19. Nf2 Qf7 20. Rad1 h5 21. Nh3 Bh6
22. Kh1 Nf6 23. Nf2 Qg7 24. Rg1 Nh4 25. Nd3 g4 26. Qe1 Bg5 27. Qf2 Ng6 28.
Qd2 Kh8 29. Rgf1 Bh6 30. Qe1 Rad8 31. b4 axb4 32. Nxb4 Rg8 33. Rg1 Ra8 34.
Ne2 Nh7 35. Nc6 Ng5 36. Rd3 Qf6 37. Qf1 Nh4 38. Ncd4 Kh7 39. Qe1 gxf3 40.
gxf3 Bc8 41. Qxh4 Nh3 42. Qe1 Nxg1 43. Nxg1 exd4 44. Bxd4 Qg5 45. Qf2 Bg7
46. Bc6 Rb8 47. c3 Be5 48. Bb5 Rg7 49. Rd2 Qe7 50. Qf1 Bd7 51. Nh3 Bxh3 52.
Qxh3 Kh6 53. Qe6+ Qxe6 54. dxe6 Rbg8 55. Bf2 Bxc3 56. Rc2 Bf6 57. h3 c5 58.
Bc4 Rd8 59. Rd2 Ra7 60. Bb5 Kg7 61. Kg2 Re7 62. Bd7 Rexd7 63. exd7 Rxd7 64.
Rd5 Rd8 65. Kf1 Be5 66. a5 Rb8 67. axb6 Kf6 68. Ke2 Rxb6 69. Rd2 Ke6 70.
Ra2 Rb3 71. Rd2 Ra3 72. Rd3 Bc3 73. Rd5 Ra2+ 74. Kf1 c4 75. Rxh5 Bf6 76.
Rh6 c3 77. Be1 Ra1 78. Ke2 c2 79. Bd2 c1=Q 80. Bxc1 Rxc1 81. h4 Rc2+ 82.
Ke1 Rh2 83. h5 Ke5 84. Rh7 Bh4+ 85. Kf1 Rf2+ 86. Kg1 Rxf3 87. Kh2 Rg3 88.
Rf7 Bf6 89. h6 Rg6 90. h7 Bh8 91. Rf8 Rh6+ 92. Kg2 Rxh7
93. Kf3 Rh3+ {(Rh7-h3+) +M61/24} 0-1
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Anthony.R.Brown
Hi again Queegmaster...
Your Quote: What is your plan for pawn to f4 or c4 ?
Are you asking What I would Play using the (A.R.B.C.S) for the above First Moves for White?
If you are then you may have Read in the Info at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RidiladKJVw
That the (A.R.B.C.S) Always Starts with 1.E7-E6 and Then 2.D7-D6 (Unless Stopped by White!?)
Example White Starts 1.E2-E4 Black 1.E7-E6 White F1-B5 (Black Now can't Play 2.D7-D6)
But!! Computers on Their Own (No Book!) Don't!/Can't Play this
(P.S The (A.R.B.C.S) Still has an Answer to this!
For the Moment...
White Plays 1. F4 Black Still Plays 1.E7-E6
White Plays 1. C4 Black Still Plays 1.E7-E6
Your Quote: What is your plan for pawn to f4 or c4 ?
Are you asking What I would Play using the (A.R.B.C.S) for the above First Moves for White?
If you are then you may have Read in the Info at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RidiladKJVw
That the (A.R.B.C.S) Always Starts with 1.E7-E6 and Then 2.D7-D6 (Unless Stopped by White!?)
Example White Starts 1.E2-E4 Black 1.E7-E6 White F1-B5 (Black Now can't Play 2.D7-D6)
But!! Computers on Their Own (No Book!) Don't!/Can't Play this
(P.S The (A.R.B.C.S) Still has an Answer to this!
For the Moment...
White Plays 1. F4 Black Still Plays 1.E7-E6
White Plays 1. C4 Black Still Plays 1.E7-E6
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Hi
I was asking how ARB deals with the plan of f2- f4 -f5 or c2 -c4 -c5 after NOT putting both their Knights on bishop three.
If your opponent tries to break your structure with one of these advances
it looks very dangerous
I played a game against Chessmaster personality Spock and he chose NOT to play Nc3 until he FIRST played pawn to c4 - then and only then did he develop the Queen's Knight . This is the plan I was concerned about to begin with.
Do you have a game where you could defeat this pawn break on one side or the other ? I wound up in a VERY defensive posture and eventually lost. It seems like too much space given up in the center as I mentioned before.
Discombobulated regards,
Dr. Q
I was asking how ARB deals with the plan of f2- f4 -f5 or c2 -c4 -c5 after NOT putting both their Knights on bishop three.
If your opponent tries to break your structure with one of these advances
it looks very dangerous
I played a game against Chessmaster personality Spock and he chose NOT to play Nc3 until he FIRST played pawn to c4 - then and only then did he develop the Queen's Knight . This is the plan I was concerned about to begin with.
Do you have a game where you could defeat this pawn break on one side or the other ? I wound up in a VERY defensive posture and eventually lost. It seems like too much space given up in the center as I mentioned before.
Discombobulated regards,
Dr. Q
Only he who never plays, never loses
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OK
I thought it was clear but English is my second language.
1. e4 e6
2. d4 d6
3. c4 or f4
or...
3.Nf3 ...
4.c4 with Nc3 Afterwards then a push from c4 to c5 (at the right time )
or
3.f4... with Nf3 Afterwards then a push from f4 to f5 (at the right time )
I can't be any clearer.
Dr. Q
I thought it was clear but English is my second language.
1. e4 e6
2. d4 d6
3. c4 or f4
or...
3.Nf3 ...
4.c4 with Nc3 Afterwards then a push from c4 to c5 (at the right time )
or
3.f4... with Nf3 Afterwards then a push from f4 to f5 (at the right time )
I can't be any clearer.
Dr. Q
Only he who never plays, never loses
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Anthony.R.Brown
OK Queegmaster...
At this Point We are Getting to the Why I made (The A.R.B Chess System)
Computers! don't Play the Type or Order of Moves you Mentioned on Their Own!!
My Part Main Quote below...
The A.R.B Chess System is an Example on How Weak! They
Are! Without Predefined (Fixed lines!) ? (No Calculating!) ?
All Strong Chess Computers Rated (3000)+ have the Serious Weakness that the Basic Chess Rules Etc. Programmed into them is the Absolute Best Way to Play!?
Computers Without a Book put in By Humans will Play (4) + 1 Fist Moves 99% of the Time ?
Preference Order...
(1) E2-E4
(2) D2-D4
(3) G1-F3
(4) B1-C3)
Now the Strange + 1 Choice Some Play!? (Maybe in the Past!)
(5) C2-C4
For some Reason this is a First Move that is Hard for Computers to Play!
But Humans Understand that it can be Good!
I have Inner feelings about The English C2-C4 Hard to Explain!
Maybe in the Future... when Computers Reach a Rating of 4000 + ELO
They may show us Some New way of Playing with this From the Start!
On their Own? P.S I Should love it being English Myself!
A.R.B
At this Point We are Getting to the Why I made (The A.R.B Chess System)
Computers! don't Play the Type or Order of Moves you Mentioned on Their Own!!
My Part Main Quote below...
The A.R.B Chess System is an Example on How Weak! They
Are! Without Predefined (Fixed lines!) ? (No Calculating!) ?
All Strong Chess Computers Rated (3000)+ have the Serious Weakness that the Basic Chess Rules Etc. Programmed into them is the Absolute Best Way to Play!?
Computers Without a Book put in By Humans will Play (4) + 1 Fist Moves 99% of the Time ?
Preference Order...
(1) E2-E4
(2) D2-D4
(3) G1-F3
(4) B1-C3)
Now the Strange + 1 Choice Some Play!? (Maybe in the Past!)
(5) C2-C4
For some Reason this is a First Move that is Hard for Computers to Play!
But Humans Understand that it can be Good!
I have Inner feelings about The English C2-C4 Hard to Explain!
Maybe in the Future... when Computers Reach a Rating of 4000 + ELO
They may show us Some New way of Playing with this From the Start!
On their Own? P.S I Should love it being English Myself!
A.R.B
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But surely the point here is that if you and Hiarcs are in a tournament and I am not allowed an opening book I am still free to tell Hiarcs he is playing a patzer and he will sac to his hearts content and win the game.
A.R.B
Telling Hiarcs anything Other than it's Pre-Programmed Program (as in Normal Version!) is again back to (Fixed lines!) ? (No Calculating!) ?
Plus the Ace up The A.R.B.C.Systems Human Sleeve! is that it can Always go Back to Normal Chess if the Opponent has Lost So Much Material!
It's a Humans Prerogative!
But surely the point here is that if you and Hiarcs are in a tournament and I am not allowed an opening book I am still free to tell Hiarcs he is playing a patzer and he will sac to his hearts content and win the game.
A.R.B
Telling Hiarcs anything Other than it's Pre-Programmed Program (as in Normal Version!) is again back to (Fixed lines!) ? (No Calculating!) ?
Plus the Ace up The A.R.B.C.Systems Human Sleeve! is that it can Always go Back to Normal Chess if the Opponent has Lost So Much Material!
It's a Humans Prerogative!