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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: saitek president chess computer Reply with quote

hello fellow forum members my name is ian from birmingham england... i have a president chess computer since 1994 and going strong.. however would appreciate the opportunity for someone to give us a few games against their computers also around same level ... also would like some pointers as done vast amount of research... yes default settings seem to be the strongest yet the schumacher lists active setting with a higher elo anyone care to shed some light on which level gives the highest elo for the president also am after another machine if anyone can help pls pls get in touch many thanks ian Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ian,

Welcome to the Hiarcs forum in this link you can find other machines:

http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=schachcomputer&_sacat=0&_odkw=schachcompuer&_osacat=0&_from=R40

I do not own the president but Steve does so probably today or tomorrow he will show up and answer about strongest settings for the president.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Ricardo mentions i do own a President however
i generally dont follow the rating's for a computer on any setting other then the recommended or Startup settings
even using the standard settings there can be a range of different rating's across the different Ratings sources out there

Selective Search rates the President at 1994 which is a minimum of 1 minute per move
The Schachcomputer Wiki shows the President at 2018 Active...lower then their 2030 Tournament rating for it
While The SSDF clocked it in at 1979

1979-2030 Regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah thanks guys much appreciated hey steve would you fancy machine against machine upto you mate ; -)
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rookorbycrook wrote:
ah thanks guys much appreciated hey steve would you fancy machine against machine upto you mate ; -)


not sure what you are asking?
are you challenging me to a chess computer match?

Pensive Regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did play the president against chess master grandmaster edition, and it did savour a draw have the pgn printed out will upload the moves... and the president against the iphone app hiarcs can win upto master level where hiarcs master level is set at 2325 president level is level 4 ( 5 secs a move ) just played this like 10 mins ago comfy win


[Date "2013.03.09"]
[White "president"]
[Black "HIARCS"]
[BlackElo "2325"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 c5 2. Bb5 a6 3. Bc4 Nc6 4. Nf3 b5 5. Be2 Nf6 6. d3 d5 7. exd5 Nxd5 8. O-O
e5 9. a4 b4 10. Re1 Bf5 11. b3 Bd6 12. Bb2 O-O 13. Nbd2 Nf4 14. Nc4 Bg4 15. Ne3
Qd7 16. h3 Be6 17. Ng5 Nd4 18. Bf3 Rac8 19. Nxe6 Qxe6 20. Bb7 Rb8 21. Bxa6 Rfd8
22. Bc4 Qg6 23. Kh2 e4 24. Kh1 exd3 25. cxd3 Bc7 26. Qg4 Ra8 27. Qxg6 hxg6 28.
Ng4 Rd7 29. Bxd4 Rxd4 30. Re7 Bd6 31. Bxf7+ Kh7 32. Re3 Nxd3 33. Kg1 Bf4 34.
Re7 Bd6 35. Re6 Nf4 36. Ree1 Nd3 37. Re2 Nf4 38. Rea2 Rf8 39. Bc4 Nd5 40. Rc2
Nc3 41. a5 Re8 42. a6 Ra8 43. a7 Bf4 44. g3 Bd6 45. Bf1 c4 46. Bg2 cxb3 47. Rb2
Rd1+ 48. Rxd1 Rxa7 49. Rxd6 Ra3 50. Kh2 Na4 51. Be4 Kg8 52. Bxg6 Kf8 53. Re2
Nc3 54. Re8#
1-0


im guessing the app hiarcs for the ipad iphone isnt true ??? at 2325 seems not ??
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes steve if you have time a match would be good to see
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

have noticed the president always plays bb5 after c5 in the sicilian seems like a wasted move what are your views????
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rookorbycrook wrote:
yes steve if you have time a match would be good to see


I will have some time the week of April 16th
it will be good practice for the upcoming 2013 Paris Dedciated tournament to be held on May 5th
i will be operating the Revelation Polgar in that event

in our match...
you will operate the President
i suggest a time control of 1 Min per Move Avg.
i assume we will play online?
Playchess Server OK for you?
what computer shall i operate?
choose a computer from the Wiki list that is close to the President in elo and i will operate it against your President
http://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php/Wiki-Elo-Liste

Challenge Accepted Regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi steve yes mate that sounds good to me i take it you have a variety of computers at home then blimey ! i suggest the mephisto mm VI

OK ONE MINUTE A MOVE ALSO I AM ON RED HOT PAWN OR CAN PLAY IF YOU R ON FACEBOOK ILL HAVE TO REGISTER ON THE SITE YOU SUGGESTED ILL USE THE NAME ROOK OR BY CROOK NAME ON FACEBOOK IS IAN MORLEY
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rookorbycrook wrote:
hi steve yes mate that sounds good to me i take it you have a variety of computers at home then blimey ! i suggest the mephisto mm VI

OK ONE MINUTE A MOVE ALSO I AM ON RED HOT PAWN OR CAN PLAY IF YOU R ON FACEBOOK ILL HAVE TO REGISTER ON THE SITE YOU SUGGESTED ILL USE THE NAME ROOK OR BY CROOK NAME ON FACEBOOK IS IAN MORLEY


Mephisto MMVI is it
1 Min per move Avg
i sugguest a 3 game match to be played during the week of April 16th on Playchess
we will set the exact time a week before
OK with you?

i will make sure the MMVI plays a Sicilian
Razz

Just Kidding Regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HEY THATS COOL STEVE....... how much is it to join your online club?? and thankyou appreciate it
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just installing the free version hope this is enough
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rookorbycrook wrote:
HEY THATS COOL STEVE....... how much is it to join your online club?? and thankyou appreciate it


Playchess is a well known chess server
you can play as a GUEST and it will cost you nothing

go to www.playchess.com ..download the software(free) and try playing as a guest to get familiar with it

Saitek President Vs. Mephisto MMVI Regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can play as guest so we are good to go look forward it
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