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The New Pocket Fritz 4(Hiarcs) Wins in Mercosur 2009 9.5/10
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any idea when the first update will be released?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tsukrov wrote:
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The PF4.0 version supports only HTML-texts in CBH. If your e-book is new, it has HTML textes, which are supported.

The first update will allow to use the old text entries.
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Somehow this feature didn't make it to the first update. At least with my old FritzTrainer DVDs the errormessage stating that this version of PocketFritz doesn't support texts in the old chessbase format still appears. Is there hope for Update 2 to fix it, Stas!?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup. It's planned for the 4.2.
4.1 was a pure bug-fix.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did Pocket Fritz Hiarcs play in Mercosur 2010?
Will Hiarcs running in a phone play in another human tournament?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tournament is normally in December, I do not know if we are playing this year. It is up to Chessbase to enter. I hope Hiarcs will play in other tournaments. It is not easy to get top GM's to play against the engines particularly on something as small as a phone.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to get top GM's to play against the engines particularly on something as small as a phone.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey Williamson wrote:
The tournament is normally in December, I do not know if we are playing this year. It is up to Chessbase to enter. I hope Hiarcs will play in other tournaments. It is not easy to get top GM's to play against the engines particularly on something as small as a phone.

I do not know when the Copa Mercosur is in 2010. However, for the 5 years from 2005 to 2009 it was always between July 14 and August 14.
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to get top GM's to play against the engines particularly on something as small as a phone.
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I agree with NATIONAL12. I don’t think top GM's are afraid of phones, yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mschribr wrote:

NATIONAL12 wrote:
to get top GM's to play against the engines particularly on something as small as a phone.
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I agree with NATIONAL12. I don’t think top GM's are afraid of phones, yet.
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I think they are terrified. They will lose to something that fits in my pocket. I would bet that any GM would lose a match v Hiarcs on an iPhone 4.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mschribr, send email in July 2010 the organization Tournament Cup Martelli (Tournament Copa Mercosur before) and told me that this ChessBase 2010 had not brought anything new, probably next year 2011 to play Pocket Fritz 5.... Wink

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IA wrote:
Hi mschribr, send email in July 2010 the organization Tournament Cup Martelli (Tournament Copa Mercosur before) and told me that this ChessBase 2010 had not brought anything new, probably next year 2011 to play Pocket Fritz 5.... Wink

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Are you saying Copa Mercosur was renamed to Tournament Cup Martelli? The Copa Mercosur was a category 6 tournament. The Tournament Cup Martelli was a category 13 tournament. Sounds like a different tournament. The Tournament Cup Martelli was 4th-13th August 2010.
These phones need a stronger GM tournament than the Tournament Cup Martelli. These phones would not win a category 20.
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I would bet that any GM would lose a match v Hiarcs on an iPhone 4.

I would take that bet. Any of the top 5 GMs would beat Hiarcs on an iPhone 4. Does Hiarcs on an iPhone 4 even have a rating?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mschribr wrote:
IA wrote:
Hi mschribr, send email in July 2010 the organization Tournament Cup Martelli (Tournament Copa Mercosur before) and told me that this ChessBase 2010 had not brought anything new, probably next year 2011 to play Pocket Fritz 5.... Wink

Regards...

Are you saying Copa Mercosur was renamed to Tournament Cup Martelli? The Copa Mercosur was a category 6 tournament. The Tournament Cup Martelli was a category 13 tournament. Sounds like a different tournament. The Tournament Cup Martelli was 4th-13th August 2010.
These phones need a stronger GM tournament than the Tournament Cup Martelli. These phones would not win a category 20.
Harvey Williamson wrote:

I would bet that any GM would lose a match v Hiarcs on an iPhone 4.

I would take that bet. Any of the top 5 GMs would beat Hiarcs on an iPhone 4. Does Hiarcs on an iPhone 4 even have a rating?
Mark


it's performance in Mercosur was 2931 on PPC - there is no rating for iphone 4 but there is for Hiarcs on other pocket devices http://raitpref.hotbox.ru/ct001-r.htm
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mschribr, yes, now called Cup Martelli were played 3 tournaments for a norm GM and one for norm IM..., this year 2010 has been the strongest of all with an average of 2558 ELO and a category XIII, it hurts in the end not to play Pocket Fritz X, yes Chessbase had taken a program would have played in a category XIII... Rolling Eyes

http://www.ajedrezmartelli.org.ar/magistrales/2010/bicentenario.htm

http://www.chessbase.com/espanola/newsdetail2.asp?id=8602

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IA wrote:
this year 2010 has been the strongest of all with an average of 2558 ELO and a category XIII, it hurts in the end not to play Pocket Fritz X, yes Chessbase had taken a program would have played in a category XIII... Rolling Eyes

I think pocket fritz Hiarcs is too strong for category 13. It should play in category 19 or 20.

Harvey Williamson wrote:

it's performance in Mercosur was 2931 on PPC - there is no rating for iphone 4 but there is for Hiarcs on other pocket devices http://raitpref.hotbox.ru/ct001-r.htm

The week in chess gave the performance of Pocket Fritz 4 Hiarcs in Mercosur Cup Villa on August 2009 at 2898. See http://www.chess.co.uk/twic/twic771.html#13 . Performance is not the same thing as a rating. The rating could be 150 less the performance. That would make it 2750. 2750 is strong but there are 10 GMs over 2750.
Are the ratings at http://raitpref.hotbox.ru/ct001-r.htm from computer versus computer or GM versus computer games? We cannot compare computer versus computer ratings to GM versus computer rating.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiarcs 9 on an old Palm in 2005 won a match against a 2600+GM. An iphone 4 with Hiarcs 13.xx and latest opening book would beat any GM in a match. The speed of the iPhone 4 is probably faster than the PC's some of the old computer v GM games were played on.

http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/phvgmjg.htm

another match from 2005 http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/gmvolkov.htm and another http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/gmbobras.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey Williamson wrote:
Hiarcs 9 on an old Palm in 2005 won a match against a 2600+GM. An iphone 4 with Hiarcs 13.xx and latest opening book would beat any GM in a match. The speed of the iPhone 4 is probably faster than the PC's some of the old computer v GM games were played on.

http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/phvgmjg.htm

another match from 2005 http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/gmvolkov.htm and another http://www.hiarcs.com/Games/gmbobras.htm

All of the games Hiarcs on a phone played are faster than 40 moves in 2 hours. Then Hiarcs on a phone never beat a GM at 40 moves in 2 hours. Then to say Hiarcs on a phone plays at GM level is misleading. To say that Hiarcs on an iphone will beat any GM is ridiculous.
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