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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

I think it's time for them to contact Ron Nelson for help 😃

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chessmaster Ireland wrote:
Hi Al

I think it's time for them to contact Ron Nelson for help 😃

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Bryan


Hi Bryan,

Yes I'd love a Phantom but guess they wouldn't last long now.

I've seen a few on eBay but they're too expensive for a gamble.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

There seems to be a few always on eBay USA but very limited here in Europe.

I have two, one works 100% but the other packed in. Berger has offered to repair it but until the working one packs in, then I will probably get him to have a look at it.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al,
Scally wrote:
blaubaer wrote:
Hi Al,

the timetable looks promising....

Picochess engine compiling regards, Michael Laughing


Hi Michael,

Yes let's hope there are no more hold ups, it would be a nice Christmas present.

(I hadn't made the PicoChess connection, I'm glad you have. I think I'll put the basics on there and email you the technical stuff if you like, plus a copy of my armv7lAl folder?)


It was easier for me to make the connection, because I knew that you are busy with Picochess testing...

Email plus folder copy would be nice! Laughing I appreciate your help!

Regards, Michael
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chessmaster Ireland wrote:
Hi Al

There seems to be a few always on eBay USA but very limited here in Europe.

I have two, one works 100% but the other packed in. Berger has offered to repair it but until the working one packs in, then I will probably get him to have a look at it.

Regards from Cheshire
Bryan


Hi Bryan,

I found one on another 'selling site' it was on for £65,
My offer of £50 was accepted. Not sure about the site,
However I took a chance. Will let you know if it arrives ...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Email plus folder copy would be nice! Laughing I appreciate your help!

Regards, Michael


Hi Michael,

You'll have it by Thursday evening, if not before.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bryan,

My Phantom Force arrived today from another selling site. It looks in good condition, and powers up correctly announcing in English.

However Iíve tried setting the pieces in their start position or at the sides, I can hear the mechanism whirring away, but the pieces either slightly wiggle or jump and land on their sides sticking to other pieces. Iíve tried the reset button ....

Any ideas?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

make sure you have the proper pieces
sometimes sellers will just toss in any small magnetic chess set and that will not cut it with a Robot

the pieces should look EXACTLY as they do on the box:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N05/2067709616/in/album-72157600922174592/

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Steve,

Iíd already emailed the seller who naturally said it was fully working before he sent me it. However Iíd already noticed that on the box the pieces look metal or plastic and are white and black, mine are beige and brown wooden pieces with felt bottoms and look like Chess Challenger pieces.

Is it possible for you you to show me the underneath of a piece, Iím thinking that maybe Saitek pieces may work?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scally wrote:
Hi Steve,

Iíd already emailed the seller who naturally said it was fully working before he sent me it. However Iíd already noticed that on the box the pieces look metal or plastic and are white and black, mine are beige and brown wooden pieces with felt bottoms and look like Chess Challenger pieces.

Is it possible for you you to show me the underneath of a piece, Iím thinking that maybe Saitek pieces may work?


Cheers,

Al.


those are definitely NOT the correct pieces
no way the seller was able to play a game with wooden chess challenger pieces with felt bottoms

the correct pieces have the magnet exposed on the bottom of the piece with no felt covering
cant post a photo at the moment
to be honest Al ..the Phantom is a commonly found computer
they appear on Ebay quite often (with the proper pieces)
unless you paid a large sum of money I would keep this Robot as a spare backup and go buy another one on Ebay

Bite The Bullet Regards
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Al

Switch on without the pieces on the board and press new game and let the Phantom groan away while it thinks it's resetting the pieces.
After it stops and awaits your first move now place the pieces on their start position and make a move.

What happens, does the Phantom piece just wiggle or jump?
If it just wiggles the electromagnet isn't making enough contact with the magnet in the base of the piece. As for the piece jumping and falling over, it sounds like the piece magnet is in reversed polarity??

Very strange, try putting another magnet under the piece that just wiggles and see if by making the magnet stronger it might make it move.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your help. Thatís the first and last I use Shpock for buying anything, I thought it was too good to be true at £50.

Thereís one on eBay now that failed to sell for £200 and has now been reduced to £180, but thatís too much for a gamble.

I will try some of my other pieces ..


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al

Whilst typing my reply and having to make a cup of tea for Mrs Whitby, Steve jumped in and he is correct, they are not the correct pieces. And that is why they are jumping because of reverse polarity!!

I have a spare set somewhere so would you like me to try and find them for you?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chessmaster Ireland wrote:
Al

Whilst typing my reply and having to make a cup of tea for Mrs Whitby, Steve jumped in and he is correct, they are not the correct pieces. And that is why they are jumping because of reverse polarity!!

I have a spare set somewhere so would you like me to try and find them for you?

Regards
Bryan


Hi Bryan,

Thatís very kind of you. PM me and we can come to some sort of arrangement.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM sent.
You can see here that the Sharper Image Phantom, it uses black & white pieces instead of the Excalibur black & silver.
https://www.sharperimage.com/si/view/product/Robotic+Chess/201560
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