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donkeylane wrote:Final game of the match, a bigger difference in the final result than many would have thought I believe.

a final result of 9.5 - 2.5 in favour of the MCGE, which ,I think, gives the MCGE an elo rating above the CGPro of 232 points, maybe a little high,hope you enjoyed the match .Regards Steve C.
Thanks for the match
yes a very surprising result

Ya Never Know Regards
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Thanks for carrying out these match's.
You will usually have a more one sided score when the same programs play a match when the only difference is speed of processor and RAM size, compared with different programs which generally get close to rating expectation.
The reason is that the slower Genius will not come up with any moves, strategy that the faster Genius will not have calculated already. So will always see that bit further all the time.
Whereas a different program all together, even if lower rated, can sometimes find a different idea (human expression) that just happens to be in this position a better idea. Or maybe the position coming out of the opening is more suitable to the lower rated program.
Best Wishes
MARK (kaseldop)
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Thanks for the appreciation, I did suspect after a few games there would be a considerable difference in the final analysis, but 9.5-2.5 was a little more one sided than I would have thought. Incidentally my favourite dedicated computer games to follow is the MCGE against the R30 on active setting, can't help thinking though that the R30 gives up a pawn far too readily for activity.Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer"]
[Site "Cheshunt"]
[Date "2018.06.07"]
[Round "13"]
[White "CGPro"]
[Black "MCGE "]
[Result "0-1"]
[WhiteElo "2176"]
[BlackElo "2320"]
[ECO "B10"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. e4 c6 2. c4 d5 3. cxd5 cxd5 4. e5 Nc6 5. d4 Bf5 {MCGE out of book} 6. Nc3
{CGPro out of book} 6... e6 7. Nf3 Bg4 8. Be2 Nge7 9. Ng5 Bxe2 10. Nxe2 Nf5 11.
O-O Be7 12. Nf3 {(-0.62)} 12... Qb6 {(+0.51)} 13. b3 O-O 14. Bf4 f6 15. exf6
Bxf6 16. Be3 Qa5 17. Qe1 Qa6 18. Qd2 Nh4 19. Nxh4 Bxh4 20. Rfc1 Rae8 21. f3 Qb6
22. Qd3 Be7 23. a3 Bd6 24. b4 Re7 25. Nc3 Ref7 26. h3 Bb8 27. Kf1 {? Ne2} 27...
Bg3 {? Qc7} 28. Na4 Qd8 29. Nc5 Qd6 30. Kg1 b6 31. Na6 e5 $1 32. dxe5 {?b5}
32... Nxe5 33. Qc2 Nxf3+ 34. gxf3 Rxf3 35. Rf1 Rxe3 {Qe6!!} 36. Rxf8+ Qxf8 37.
Rf1 Qe8 {?Bf4} 38. Qf5 Be5 39. Rc1 g6 40. Qc8 Rg3+ 41. Kf2 Qf8+ 42. Qxf8+ Kxf8
43. Rd1 Rxh3 44. Rxd5 Rxa3 45. Rxe5 Rxa6 46. Re1 h5 47. Kg3 Ra3+ 48. Kg2 Kg7 49.
Re7+ Kh6 50. Rd7 h4 51. Rd6 Kh5 52. Rd7 g5 53. Kg1 a6 54. Rd6 Kg4 55. Kh2 Ra2+
56. Kg1 h3 57. Rd4+ Kg3 0-1
Upon resumption of this match,it does seem like it may be a similar story to the first 12 games,the faster speed counting for more when it involves the same programme. At move 35 the MCGE did overlook a chance to finish off the CGPro faster.Anyhow the MCGE leads 10.5-2.5 and that is only an estimation of it's elo rating, based mostly on it's match.against the R30. Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer "]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.09"]
[Round "14"]
[White "MCGE"]
[Black "CGPro "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2320"]
[BlackElo "2176"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. b4 e5 2. Bb2 e4 3. c4 Nf6 4. a3 {MCGE out of book} 4... d5
{CGPro out of book} 5. cxd5 Nxd5 6. e3 a5 7. b5 Nd7 8. d3 N7f6 9. dxe4 Nxe4 10.
Nf3 {(+0.20)} 10... Bf5 {(-0.23)} 11. Bd3 Ndf6 12. Nd4 Bg6 13. Nc3 Nxc3 14. Bxc3
Be7 15. Bc4 O-O 16. O-O Ne4 17. Bb2 Bf6 18. Bd3 Qd6 19. Qc2 Rfe8 20. Rac1 Rac8
21. Rfd1 Qe7 22. Nb3 Bxb2 23. Qxb2 Rcd8 24. Be2 Rxd1+ 25. Bxd1 b6 26. Bf3 Ng5
27. Be2 Ne6 28. Nd2 Rd8 29. Nf1 Bd3 30. Bf3 Nc5 31. Ng3 Na4 32. Qb3 Nc5 33. Qb2
Na4 34. Qb3 Nc5 35. Qb2 1/2-1/2
Don't see too many Polish openings,apparently it's an orangutan version, not one I intend to study.A result for the CGPro, 11-3 in favour of the MCGE.Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer"]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.10"]
[Round "15"]
[White "CGPro"]
[Black "MCGE "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2176"]
[BlackElo "2230"]
[ECO "C08"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nd2 c5 4. exd5 exd5 5. Ngf3 c4 6. b3 cxb3 7. axb3 Bb4 8.
Bb2 {CGPro out of book} 8... Ne7 {MCGE out of book} 9. c3 {(+0.25)} 9... Bd6
{(-0.15)} 10. Bd3 O-O 11. Qc2 Ng6 12. O-O Nc6 13. Rfe1 Qf6 14. Ba3 Bxa3 15. Rxa3
h6 16. Raa1 Bg4 17. h3 Be6 18. Bxg6 fxg6 19. Qd3 a6 20. Re3 Rac8 21. Qe2 Bf5 22.
Ne5 Nxe5 23. dxe5 Qb6 24. Qd1 d4 25. cxd4 Bc2 26. Qe2 Qxd4 27. Ra4 Qb2 28. Rc4
b5 29. Rxc8 Rxc8 30. e6 Qa3 31. Nf1 {?Nf3 is better} 31... Qe7 32. Ng3 g5 33.
Qd2 Bg6 34. Qd4 Kh7 35. Qb6 Rc1+ 36. Kh2 g4 37. Ne2 Rf1 38. Nf4 Be8 39. Re2
{(Qd4)} 39... gxh3 40. Nxh3 Ra1 41. Nf4 Qh4+ 42. Nh3 Qe7 43. Nf4 Qh4+ 44. Nh3
Qe7 1/2-1/2
The second 3 fold rep draw in succession, the MCGE rating should read 2320,as may be obvious, I do enjoy recording and posting games from dedicated computers, but I definitely feel you need to have two different programmes to make for a more entertaining match.The score is now 11.5-3.5 in favour of the MCGE. Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer "]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.12"]
[Round "16"]
[White "MCGE"]
[Black "CGPro "]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2320"]
[BlackElo "2176"]
[ECO "E62"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. d4 d6 4. g3 g6 5. Bg2 Bg7 6. Nc3 O-O 7. O-O Bf5 8. Ne1 e5
9. d5 cxd5 10. cxd5 Qb6 {CGPro out of book} 11. e4 {MCGE out of book} 11... Bd7
12. Nd3 Qa6 13. Re1 Qc4 14. Bf1 Qc8 15. Qb3 Na6 16. Qa3 Nc5 17. Nxc5 dxc5 18.
Bg5 {(+0.53)} 18... h6 {(-0.50)} 19. Be3 b6 20. Rac1 Rd8 21. Ba6 Qc7 22. f3 Bc8
23. Kg2 Bxa6 24. Qxa6 Qc8 25. Qc4 Qd7 26. Red1 Nh7 27. Ne2 Ng5 28. Ng1 Rac8 29.
b3 Qb7 30. Nh3 Nxh3 31. Kxh3 Qd7+ 32. Kg2 Rc7 33. Rc2 Kh7 34. Rdc1 {(+1.06)}
34... Bf6 {(-1.15)} 35. Qa6 Rb7 36. Bd2 {(Rc5,bc5,Qf6 is better for white)}
36... Bg5 37. Bxg5 hxg5 38. Qd3 Kg7 39. Qc3 Qe7 40. a3 Rc7 41. Qd2 Rcd7 42. b4
cxb4 {? Rc8 is better} 43. axb4 Qf6 44. Rc6 Qe7 45. b5 f6 46. Qc3 Rh8 47. h3 Qf7
48. Ra1 Rh5 49. Ra4 Rh8 50. Rac4 Re8 51. Qa1 Rh8 52. Qc1 Rhd8 53. Qa3 Rh8 54.
Qb2 Rb8 55. Qc2 Rh8 56. Re6 Rf8 57. Qc3 Qg8 58. Rcc6 Rdf7 59. Rc7 Rxc7 60. Qxc7+
Rf7 61. Re7 Rxe7 62. Qxe7+ Qf7 63. Qd8 f5 64. Qb8 Qd7 65. Qxe5+ Kf7 66. Qb2 g4
67. hxg4 fxe4 68. fxe4 Qxg4 69. Qc2 Qd7 70. Qc4 Kf6 71. Kf3 Ke7 72. Kf4 Qd6+ 73.
e5 Qd7 74. d6+ Kf8 75. g4 Qf7+ 76. Qxf7+ 1-0
That makes it 12.5-3.5 to the MCGE, it'll be interesting to see how milleniums newest offering, when it's released, fares in this competition. Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer "]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.14"]
[Round "17"]
[White "CGPro "]
[Black "MCGE "]
[Result "1-0"]
[WhiteElo "2176"]
[BlackElo "2320"]
[ECO "D12"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. Nf3 Nf6 2. c4 c6 3. e3 d5 4. d4 Bf5 5. Nc3 e6 6. Nh4 Bg4 7. Qb3 Qb6 8. h3 Bh5
9. Qc2 {CGPro out of book} 9... Bb4 {MCGE out of book} 10. a3 Be7 11. Bd3 dxc4
12. Bxc4 Nbd7 13. b4 Qc7 14. Bb2 {(-0.10)} 14... a5 {(+0.12)} 15. b5 Rc8 16. Rc1
c5 17. dxc5 Nxc5 18. O-O O-O 19. g4 Nfd7 20. gxh5 Bxh4 21. Ne4 Qd8 22. Kh1 Nxe4
23. Qxe4 Nc5 24. Qc2 Bf6 25. h6 g6 26. Rg1 Nd7 27. Qe2 Qe7 28. Ba2 Ne5 29. Rcd1
Rfd8 30. Bb3 Bh8 31. Rxd8+ Qxd8 32. f4 {(-0.84)} 32... Qd3 {(+1.00)} 33. Bd1
Qe4+ 34. Qg2 Qxg2+ 35. Rxg2 Nc4 36. Bxh8 Nxe3 37. Re2 Nxd1 38. Bd4 Rc1 39. Re1
Kf8 40. a4 Ke7 41. Bb6 Rb1 42. Kg1 Nc3 {blunder by MCGE, Kd6 was needed} 43.
Rxb1 Nxb1 44. Bxa5 Kd6 45. Bb4+ Kd5 46. a5 f6 47. Kf2 g5 48. fxg5 fxg5 49. Ke3
e5 50. Kd3 e4+ 51. Ke3 Nc3 52. Bxc3 Kc5 53. b6 1-0
So a win at last for the CGPro, the MCGE left it's knight in a hopeless situation after 42...Nc3, which now makes it 12.5-4.5, 3 games to go.
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[Event "Computer v Computer"]
[Site "Cheshunt"]
[Date "2018.06.16"]
[Round "18"]
[White "MCGE"]
[Black "CGPro "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2320"]
[BlackElo "2176"]
[ECO "B51"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Nd7 4. O-O a6 5. Bd3 Ngf6 6. c3 b5 7. Bc2 Bb7
{CGPro out of book} 8. Re1 c4 9. b3 {MCGE out of book} 9... e5 10. bxc4 bxc4 11.
Na3 Rc8 12. Rb1 Ba8 13. Qe2 {(-0.28)} 13... Qc7 {(+0.15)} 14. h3 Be7 15. Nh4 g6
16. Nf3 O-O 17. Ra1 Nh5 18. Qe3 Nf4 19. g3 Nh5
{(Nd3 is better, giving black a strong attack)} 20. Qh6 Rb8 21. Rb1 Qc5
{(d5 is better)} 22. Qe3 Nhf6 23. Qxc5 Nxc5 24. Nxc4 Rxb1 25. Bxb1 Ncxe4 26. Ba3
Re8 27. Bb4 Nxc3 28. dxc3 Bxf3 29. Bxd6 Bxd6 30. Nxd6 Rd8 31. Nc4 Nd7 32. Re3
Bc6 33. Re1 Bf3 34. Re3 Bc6 35. Bc2 Bd5 36. Bb3 e4 37. Re2 Nc5 38. Rd2 Nd3 39.
Ne3 Bxb3 40. axb3 Rb8 41. b4 Rc8 42. Nd5 Kg7 43. Ra2 Rc6 44. Ra3 f5 45. Kf1
{(+0.09)} 45... Kf7 {(-0.15)} 46. h4 Ke6 47. Ne3 Kd7 48. Ng2 Kd6 49. Ke2 Nc1+
50. Ke3 Nd3 51. Nf4 Ne5 52. Ke2 Kd7 53. Nd5 Nd3 54. Ne3 Nc1+ 55. Kd2 Nd3 56. f3
Ne5 57. fxe4 fxe4 58. Kc1 Nf3 59. Kb2 Ne5 60. Kb3 Nf3 61. Ra1 {(+0.21)} 61...
Rd6 {(-0.15)} 62. Nc4 Re6 63. Rd1+ Kc7 64. Ne3 Rd6 65. Rxd6 Kxd6 66. Ka4 Kc6 67.
Ka5 Kb7 68. b5 axb5 69. Kxb5 Ng1 70. c4 h5 71. Kc5 Ne2 72. Nf1 Kc7 73. Kd5 Kd7
74. Kxe4 Ke6 75. c5 Nc3+ 76. Kf4 Kf6 77. Ne3 Ke6 78. g4 hxg4 79. Nxg4 Kd5 80.
Kg5 Kxc5 81. Kxg6 Ne2 82. Kf6 Nf4 83. Kf5 Nh5 84. Nf6 Ng7+ 85. Kg6 Ne6 1/2-1/2
The computers showed an evaluation of over +2.00 for the MCGE, and likewise -2.00 for the CGPro, this is a tablebase draw, and after 85 moves it was so adjudicated.Regards Steve C.
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[Event "Computer v Computer "]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.18"]
[Round "19"]
[White "CGPro"]
[Black "MCGE "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2176"]
[BlackElo "2320"]
[ECO "B50"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. c3 Nf6 4. Be2 g6 5. O-O Bg7 6. d3 O-O 7. Nbd2 Nc6 8. Re1
e5 9. Nf1 {CGPro out of book} 9... Bd7 {MCGE out of book} 10. Ng3 Qb6 11. Nd2
Be6 12. Nc4 Qd8 13. f4 b5 14. fxe5 dxe5 15. Nd2 Qb6 16. Kh1 Rad8 17. Rf1 Rd7
{(h5 with attack)} 18. b3 c4 {(again h5)} 19. dxc4 bxc4 20. Qc2 {(-0.15)} 20...
cxb3 {(-0.25)} 21. axb3 Rc8 22. Bc4 Nd8 23. Bxe6 Nxe6 24. Nc4 Qb8 25. Ra3 Rb7
26. Bd2 Bf8 27. Ra2 Be7 28. Na5 Rd7 29. Bc1 Kg7 30. Be3 Ng4 31. Bg1 Bh4 32. Ne2
Nc5 33. h3 Nf6 34. Bxc5 Rxc5 35. b4 Rc8 36. Nb3 Bg5 37. Nc5 Rd2 38. Qa4 Rxa2 39.
Qxa2 Qb5 40. Ng3 {(-1.18)} 40... a5 {(+1.00)} 41. Qe2 Qxe2 42. Nxe2 axb4 43.
cxb4 Be3 44. Nd3 Nxe4 45. Rf3 Bd4 46. Nxd4 exd4 47. Kg1 f5 48. Rf1 Rc3 49. Rd1
Rb3 50. Nc5 Rxb4 51. Ne6+ Kf6 52. Nxd4 g5 53. Nf3 g4 54. hxg4 fxg4 55. Nd4 h5
56. Rf1+ Kg6 57. Ne6 Ng3 58. Nf8+ Kh6 59. Re1 h4 60. Nd7 Kg5 61. Ne5 Rb3 62.
Nf7+ {(-1.46)} 62... Kf4 {(+1.53)} 63. Nd8 Rb2 64. Ne6+ Kf5 65. Kh2 Rd2 66. Ng7+
Kg6 {Kf6 is winning for black} 67. Ne6 Nh5 68. Re5 h3 69. Rg5+ Kf6 70. Rxh5 Kxe6
71. Kh1 hxg2+ 72. Kg1 Kf6 73. Rh2 Kg5 74. Rxg2 1/2-1/2
At move 66...Kf6 was winning for the MCGE, but the CGPro has another draw against it,the score is now 13.5-5.5,one game to go.Regards Steve C
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[Event "Computer v Computer "]
[Site "Cheshunt "]
[Date "2018.06.19"]
[Round "20"]
[White "MCGE"]
[Black "CGPro "]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[WhiteElo "2320"]
[BlackElo "2176"]
[ECO "B23"]
[Source "Analyze This App"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. Nge2 g6 4. g3 Bg7 5. Bg2 e5 6. O-O d6 7. d3 Nge7 8. f4 f6
{CGPro out of book} 9. fxe5 {MCGE out of book} 9... fxe5 10. Bg5 Be6 11. Qd2 Qd7
12. Nd5 O-O-O 13. c4 Rdf8 14. a3 h6 15. Rxf8+ Rxf8 16. Bxh6 Ng8 17. Bg5 Nd4 18.
Nxd4 cxd4 19. Rf1 Rxf1+ 20. Bxf1 {(+0.93)} 20... Kb8 {(-1.00)} 21. b3 Bf8 22.
Qf2 Bg7 23. Bg2 Qe8 24. Qd2 Qd7 25. a4 Qc8 26. Qb4 Qd7 27. Bc1 Bh6 28. Ba3 Bf8
29. Qd2 Qe8 30. a5 Qd8 31. a6 b6 32. b4 Bh6 33. Qd1 Nf6 34. b5 Ng4 35. Qf3 Be3+
36. Nxe3 Nxe3 37. Bc1 Nxg2 38. Kxg2 Kc8 39. h4 {better is h3,with the idea g4}
39... Qh8 40. Bg5 Kd7 41. Qf6 Qxf6 42. Bxf6 Bg4 43. Kf1 Ke8 44. Bg5 Kd7 45. Ke1
Kc7 46. Kd2 Kd7 47. Bh6 Be6 48. Ke1 Kc7 49. Bf8
{It's easy for the CGPro to stonewall this position, opposite coloured bishops, despite being a pawn down.The MCGE needed to play 39.h3 followed by g4 which would have given the g3 square to the white king with a later idea of h4.}
49... Kd7 50. Ke2 Bg4+ 1/2-1/2
The CGPro is not going to concede the g4 square, and can comfortably hold this position. The end of the match, final score 14-6 in favour of the MCGE, so the last 8 games were 4.5-3.5,closer than I would have thought after the first 12 games.A fair reflection on a rating of around 2320 for the MCGE. Regards Steve C.
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