Steve B wrote:spacious_mind wrote:Steve B wrote:spacious_mind wrote:
Sorry forgot to say... so Reflection Module has become a Dedicated Chess Programs Simulator ?
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I had to laugh when i saw this
you dont consider the Reflection module as a genuine dedicated chess computer ...but...you do count the Chess Card as one
lol
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Hi Steve,
You just don't know the Chesscards
You can't speed them up. You can't play other things with them. They are useless for anything else other than play the exact chess programs of Johan de Koening or Ed Schroeder that were distributed by TASC B/V with them when they sold the Chesscards. No speeding up or slowing down, you get with them what was officially sold by Tasc.
That to me makes them much more dedicated if you are talking about originality.
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Nick
the fact that a chess computer can be speeded up is simply a nice modern feature for a dedicated chess computer
it dosent disqualify it from being a dedicated computer
again...a dedicated chess computer is one that can only play chess
that what dedicated means
it does not mean originality or anything like that
i know you want to define it in your own terms and as i said thats fine by me...
but it certainly dosent define it for me or anyone else
you can have the last word (as usual)
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Steve
Hi Steve,
What is wrong with being a Simulator? Why are you fighting for something that is not even a detraction on anything? I am just calling them exactly what they are. If you have a Revelation for example that plays the Lang ROMs through an emulation in order to work in an ARM processor at its full emulated ARM processor speed, then its a dedicated chess computer because you can't slow it down and try to simulate some other program ie.. a 68,020 with 10 MHz.
Once you have the ability to do that, it becomes a simulator because you then try to simulate a speed that you hope closely matches some other program. The naming is correct. Reflection is a Dedicated Programs Simulator.
An emulator is something different it tries to emulate an original program correctly ie... emulate them.... once you put a speed slider on it then it also becomes something that tries to simulate other programs ie... its own unique speed slows down to approximate a 68,020 for example. It tries to simulate another ROM. Ruud's ROM's as far as I remember were 68,000 anything else it does with a Reflection is a simulation.
To me the distinction becomes especially important when it comes to Mephisto because you do have the programs at 68,000, 68,020 and 68,030 roms and different MHz speeds. When you start having a slider to slow down a Reflection you are now going into the area of trying to simulate (not emulate because you can't emulate them accurately to nth degree so you simulate as close as you can.
A Revelation is a dedicated computer it allowed the programs to play at a full speed consistent across all models, you couldn't slow down to try to simulate something else. Revelation never tried to profess that it is a 68,030 or a 68,020, it did however try to approximately compare to them with estimated MHz compare speeds. Hence they are also listed correctly as for example Revelation Lyon and not Revelation Lyon 68,030.
This is my opinion of calling these dedicated simulators because that is what they have become.
If you are trying to argue a case for Reflection then you should under your same definition accept Gavon for example. And I am fine with that too.
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