Star Diamond v London Pro-Commonwealth Computer Chess Cup!

[Larry]

Soldier On ..Soldier On ..Regards
Steve

Soldier on? Ok, Private Harper reporting for duty...

26.Bc2 Bxc2
27.Qxc2 Rd5

score -0.57 for black depth 8/20

In these situations the side a pawn down should try to
exchange pawns, not pieces, the stronger side pieces,
not pawns. I'm not sure if programs know this.
regards
Larry

[Wardy]

Captain Chaos reporting for duty

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re2 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Nd2 Bf5 16.Ne4 Be7
17.f3 Bg6 18.Nf2 Qd7 19.Nd3 Bd6 20.Ne5 Bxe5 21.dxe5 Rad8 22.Qd4 Qe7 23.Qf2 c5 24.Be3
Nxe3 25.Rxe3 c4 26.Bc2 Bxc2 27.Qxc2 Rd5 28.Rae1 *

[fen]5rk1/4qppp/p7/1p1rP3/2p5/2P1RPP1/PPQ4P/4R1K1 w - - 2 28 [/fen]

If .......Rfd8 then Qf2

I think we're getting to the point of the game where the SD just doesn't have the horsepower to come up with a strategic plan. At the moment it just wants to shuffle it's pieces hoping that the BLP gives it a chink to go at, a risky plan if there ever was one! Rather then Qf2 I think probably Qe4 is the way to go.....

+0.73 regards

Paul

[Steve B]

I think probably Qe4 is the way to go.....

Yes Sir..
Res II is chomping at the bit to get Qe4 in ..followed up with the pawn storming advance of f4

what is it with the SD and these Qf2 moves anyway?
i even tried forcing the Res to accept Qf2 and it kept beeping its refusal

Captain Video Signing Off Regards
Steve

[Larry]

Hi all,
One thing I have noticed during this game is that BPL makes
the move that it found in the first 30 seconds or less, every time
so far.

27 Qxc2 Rd5
28.Rael Rfd8
29.Qf2 Rd2

I would also centralize the queen followed by a pawnstorm.
score -0.57 for black depth 8/20

regards
Larry

[Steve B]

One thing I have noticed during this game is that BPL makesthe move that it found in the first 30 seconds or less, every time
so far.

interesting

in my correspondence game with Mark..the Polgar 10 did make move switches during the first 10 minutes or so..and then it would settle on one move for the long haul

there were 2-3 occasions that i recall where the Polgar 10 did change moves after about 45 minutes which was generally when it would hit 10 ply
not that it made much of a difference to the outcome

- .59 Regards(almost exactly like the BPL)
Steve

[Wardy]

Good morning all,

The SD's reply....

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re2 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Nd2 Bf5 16.Ne4 Be7
17.f3 Bg6 18.Nf2 Qd7 19.Nd3 Bd6 20.Ne5 Bxe5 21.dxe5 Rad8 22.Qd4 Qe7 23.Qf2 c5 24.Be3
Nxe3 25.Rxe3 c4 26.Bc2 Bxc2 27.Qxc2 Rd5 28.Rae1 Rfd8 29.Qf2 R5d2 30.R3e2 *

[fen]3r2k1/4qppp/p7/1p2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP1rRQ1P/4R1K1 w - - 6 30 [/fen]

The score is now +0.8. The BPL shouldn't swap rooks so I'd expect play to continue something like ......Rd3,f4, Qb7 (preventing whites queen from landing at b6), e6

The SD also rarely changes it's prefered move after the first few minutes. To be fair I think this is normal, our machines will quickly work out the short tactical shots, you're then just left with the machines positional part of the evaluation for which it won't really matter how long it thinks, it only has so much knowledge to bring to the position, it won't get better with time. In leaving them running for the hour we just give the machines a chance of detecting the deeper tactical issues on the edge of their search so they don't get caught napping, this maybe will affect 3-4 moves out of the entire game I guess?

Of to work regards

Paul

[Steve B]

well Paul
i see no reply from the BPL

I think we just might be looking at a time forfeit here

Clock Ticking Regards
Steve

[Larry]

well Paul
i see no reply from the BPL

I think we just might be looking at a time forfeit here

Clock Ticking Regards
Steve

No, no, I object. I didn't have time last night.

29........Rd2
30.R3e2 Rxe2
if 31.Rxe2 then31......Rd1 check

regards
Larry

[Steve B]

well Paul
i see no reply from the BPL

I think we just might be looking at a time forfeit here

Clock Ticking Regards
Steve

No, no, I object. I didn't have time last night.

29........Rd2
30.R3e2 Rxe2
if 31.Rxe2 then31......Rd1 check

regards
Larry

And we have a move...just before the hammer falls
-.61 Regards
Steve

[Wardy]

Good morning Gentlemen,

I wouldn't claim a win on time here as I was the one who asked for a relaxation of the 24 hour rule due to often being away from home with work

Slightly strange choice of the BLP exchanging down when behind on material though shortly we will be down to the question as to if white can use the extra pawn for a win.....

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re2 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Nd2 Bf5 16.Ne4 Be7
17.f3 Bg6 18.Nf2 Qd7 19.Nd3 Bd6 20.Ne5 Bxe5 21.dxe5 Rad8 22.Qd4 Qe7 23.Qf2 c5 24.Be3
Nxe3 25.Rxe3 c4 26.Bc2 Bxc2 27.Qxc2 Rd5 28.Rae1 Rfd8 29.Qf2 R5d2 30.R3e2 Rxe2
31.Rxe2 Rd1+ 32.Re1 *

[fen]6k1/4qppp/p7/1p2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3Q1P/3rR1K1 w - - 2 32 [/fen]

Got a chess match tonight so I may not post again till the morning depending on how late I get back and how badly I get wiped of the board.....

Patzer regards

Paul

[Larry]

[fen]6k1/3q1ppp/p7/1p2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3Q1P/3rR1K1 w - - 2 32 [/fen]

31 Rxe2 Rd1 check
32 Re1 Qd7
if 33.Rxd1 then Qxd1 check

Paul, hope you did ok in the OTB game. I have'nt played chess
that way in about 4 years.
I'm puzzled by BPL's offering of major piece exchanges too. Maybe
it thinks just the queens on the board will make it easier? Surely it
won't be so silly as to exchange queens too. Or will it?
regards
Larry

[Wardy]

Thanks for the best wishes Larry - must have paid off as I won!

I've only been playing OTB again since the start of September and tonight was my first club league game, so pretty pleased really. I only came back to chess just under 2 years ago after about a 10 year break so it feels good to be back in the swing a little....

Right enough waffle from me.......now the serious stuff, play continues

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Be7 6.Re1 b5 7.Bb3 O-O 8.c3 d5 9.exd5
Nxd5 10.Nxe5 Nxe5 11.Rxe5 c6 12.d4 Bd6 13.Re2 Qh4 14.g3 Qh3 15.Nd2 Bf5 16.Ne4 Be7
17.f3 Bg6 18.Nf2 Qd7 19.Nd3 Bd6 20.Ne5 Bxe5 21.dxe5 Rad8 22.Qd4 Qe7 23.Qf2 c5 24.Be3
Nxe3 25.Rxe3 c4 26.Bc2 Bxc2 27.Qxc2 Rd5 28.Rae1 Rfd8 29.Qf2 R5d2 30.R3e2 Rxe2
31.Rxe2 Rd1+ 32.Re1 Qd7 33.Rxd1 Qxd1+ 34.Kg2 *

[fen]6k1/5ppp/p7/1p2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3QKP/3q4 w - - 1 34 [/fen]

This is now getting down to the nitty gritty, the SD score is now back over one at +1.11

Let the pawn thrusts begin regards

Paul

[Steve B]

[fen]6k1/5ppp/p7/1p2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3QKP/3q4 w - - 1 34 [/fen]

This is now getting down to the nitty gritty, the SD score is now back over one at +1.11

Let the pawn thrusts begin regards

Paul

good of you to post a move after a grueling day of over OTB play ..Paul

+.62 Regards
Steve

[Larry]

[fen]6k1/5ppp/8/pp2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3QKP/3q4 w - - 1 34 [/fen]

hmmmm....... Lang rates the position -0.39 for black
Kittinger rates it +1.11 for white

Does Lang know something Kittinger does'nt?
BTW does anyone here know Kittinger's nationality?

33.Rxd1 Qxd1+
34.Kg2 a5

regards
Larry

[Steve B]

BTW does anyone here know Kittinger's nationality?

Kittinger was originally from the US
dont know where he lives now

[fen]6k1/5ppp/8/pp2P3/2p5/2P2PP1/PP3QKP/3q4 w - - 1 34 [/fen]

34.Kg2 a5


Res II does not like that last move for the BLP
the score is shooting up dramatically for White..even as we speak
currently at +.89 and climbing....

Riders On The Storm Regards
Steve