Error Player Explorer Hiarcs Chess Explorer 1.2.1

[Ladyhawk]

If I click on the name of the white opening Philidor Defence. None of the 3 games are listed.
The eco codes are set with SCID.
I have made a video capture about it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JOM6tH ... sp=sharing

If I set the eco codes with Hiarcs I don't get this problem. But I would like to be able to set the eco codes with other software to, and use the Player Explorer without these errors.

[mrudolf]

Can you send us a sample database illustrating the problem?

[Ladyhawk]

The eco codes are set with eco codes used by Arena.
You can donwload the eco codes file I used here:

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&i ... &disp=safe

Here are the 3 game where you can see the problem:


[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jonathan"]
[Black "Others"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "C41k"]
[PlyCount "9"]

1.d4 d6 2.e4 e5 3.Nf3 exd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 {C41k: Philidor: 3...exd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
5.Nc3} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jonathan"]
[Black "Others"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "C41k"]
[PlyCount "9"]

1.d4 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 exd4 5.Nxd4 {C41k: Philidor: 3...exd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6
5.Nc3} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Jonathan"]
[Black "Others"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "C41t"]
[PlyCount "11"]

1.d4 d6 2.e4 Nf6 3.Nc3 e5 4.Nf3 Nbd7 5.Bc4 Be7 6.O-O {C41t: Philidor: Improved
Hanham 6.O-O} *

[Ladyhawk]

I have the same problem with these games. The eco codes are set with SCID 5.0.2

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00g"]
[PlyCount "6"]

1.Nh3 {A00g: Amar/Paris Opening} 1...d5 2.g3 e5 3.Bg2 Nc6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00g"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.Nh3 {A00g: Amar/Paris Opening} 1...d5 2.g3 e5 3.d4 exd4 4.Qxd4 Nc6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00v"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.g3 e5 2.Bg2 d5 {A00v: Benko Opening} 3.c3 Nf6 4.d4 e4 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00v"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.g3 e5 2.Bg2 d5 {A00v: Benko Opening} 3.Nf3 e4 4.Nd4 c5 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00v"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.g3 e5 2.Bg2 d5 {A00v: Benko Opening} 3.d3 Nf6 4.Nd2 Nc6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00v"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1.g3 e5 2.Bg2 d5 {A00v: Benko Opening} 3.d3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.c4 c6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "A00v"]
[PlyCount "12"]

1.g3 e5 2.Bg2 d5 {A00v: Benko Opening} 3.d3 Nf6 4.Nf3 Bd6 5.O-O O-O 6.Nbd2 a5 *

[Ladyhawk]

The same problem with these games:
[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B21e"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.e4 c5 2.d3 Nc6 3.f4 {B21e: Sicilian: Grand Prix, 2...Nc6 3.d3} 3...d5 4.Be2
Nf6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22o"]
[PlyCount "6"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 {B22o: Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6} 3.d3 Nc6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22o"]
[PlyCount "8"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 {B22o: Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5} 4.Na3 Nc6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22p"]
[PlyCount "10"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nf3 Nc6 {B22p: Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5
4.Nf3 Nc6} 5.g3 d6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22q"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Qxd4 {B22q: Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6,
5.Qxd4} 5...e6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Qe4 f5 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22q"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.Qxd4 {B22q: Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6,
5.Qxd4} 5...e6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Qe4 f5 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22s"]
[PlyCount "16"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.d4 cxd4 6.Bc4 {B22s: Sicilian: Alapin,
2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bc4} 6...Nb6 7.Bb3 d5 8.exd6 Qxd6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22s"]
[PlyCount "16"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bc4 {B22s: Sicilian: Alapin,
2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bc4} 6...Nb6 7.Bb3 d5 8.exd6 Qxd6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22s"]
[PlyCount "16"]

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bc4 {B22s: Sicilian: Alapin,
2...Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.Bc4} 6...Nb6 7.Bb3 d5 8.exd6 Qxd6 *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22u"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.d4 cxd4 6.cxd4 d6 7.Bc4 Nb6 {B22u:
Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6, 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22u"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.cxd4 d6 7.Bc4 Nb6 {B22u:
Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6, 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22u"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.c3 Nf6 3.e5 Nd5 4.d4 cxd4 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6 {B22u:
Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6, 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22u"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.Nf3 Nc6 6.cxd4 d6 7.Bc4 Nb6 {B22u:
Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6, 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6} *

[Event "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Site "Chess Position Trainer"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Others"]
[Black "Jonathan"]
[Result "*"]
[EventDate "????.??.??"]
[ECO "B22u"]
[PlyCount "14"]

1.e4 c5 2.d4 cxd4 3.c3 Nf6 4.e5 Nd5 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6 {B22u:
Sicilian: Alapin, 2...Nf6, 5.cxd4 d6 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Bc4 Nb6} *

[Bxh7]

The source of the problem can be found in the SCID documentation:

"Scid Extensions to ECO
The ECO system is however fairly limited, and insufficient for modern games. Some codes are never used, while others are overly frequent. To improve this, Scid allows an optional extension to the basic ECO codes. Codes may be extended with a letter from a to z, with a further extension - a digit from 1 to 4 - being possible but not yet used. So an extended code may look like A41e or E99b2. Many of the codes common in modern master-level games have extensions defined in the Scid ECO file."

This kind of defeats one of the purposes of PGN files, which should follow the official standard and be easily readable by any software. Mixing in own inventions in an established format is doomed to break functionality in other software. If you actually rely on the extended codes for something, you have locked yourself in with SCID.

Being aware of the problem i believe the HIARCS programmers can fix this easily, as they have done with other deviations from the standard. They may even implement it, but it's a rather fringe functionality.

You may also check with SCID's settings to see if there's an option to export more universal PGNs.

[mrudolf]

Yes, Scid used non-standard ECO codes. If you want to keep them, then HCE cannot rely upon standard ECO codes for displaying openings.
I think you should allow HCE to override ECO codes – if you need Scid ECO codes anytime, you can import PGN back to Scid.