Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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Would really like to see this implemented in HCE. Most current NNUE engines are able to give this information in place of the standard centipawn scoring system that HCE currently uses.
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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Thanks for that, it would be a useful addition to HCE Pro in a future update.

I think it would be interesting to see the latest WDL values produced by an engine (if available) displayed in the stats.
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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I look forward to that being added! Hopefully in the next upgrade? :D
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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This takes more space, so it doesn't seem suitable for standard evaluation, but maybe for statistics line?

I am not sure how to present it, what about something like:

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exp. result: +36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
(assuming UCI_ShowWDL is set to true).
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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mrudolf wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm This takes more space, so it doesn't seem suitable for standard evaluation, but maybe for statistics line?

I am not sure how to present it, what about something like:

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exp. result: +36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
(assuming UCI_ShowWDL is set to true).
That would be fine. I usually use that setting for engine output anyway. You just need to allow the user to specify that they want WDL scoring since I do not see that setting anywhere in the GUI. Any many engines (thinking about SF) have very abbreviated UCI settings that present to the user in the HCE GUI for configuration.
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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mrudolf wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm This takes more space, so it doesn't seem suitable for standard evaluation, but maybe for statistics line?

I am not sure how to present it, what about something like:

Code: Select all

exp. result: +36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
(assuming UCI_ShowWDL is set to true).
+1 for this :!:
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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mrudolf wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:42 pm This takes more space, so it doesn't seem suitable for standard evaluation, but maybe for statistics line?

I am not sure how to present it, what about something like:

Code: Select all

exp. result: +36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
(assuming UCI_ShowWDL is set to true).
It could be even simpler:

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WDL +36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
Or taken to the extreme: you know what it is, so no need to explain.

Code: Select all

+36.1% =23.9% -40.0%
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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Mark Uniacke wrote: Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:04 am Thanks for that, it would be a useful addition to HCE Pro in a future update.

I think it would be interesting to see the latest WDL values produced by an engine (if available) displayed in the stats.
Hello Mark,
Are we getting any closer to implementing this feature?
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Re: Feature Request: WDL scoring option to Centipawn

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TimC wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2024 1:28 pm Are we getting any closer to implementing this feature?
We are now planning the features for 1.4. This is among candidates to be included.
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