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Hi Steve,
Thanks, I am really pleased that you enjoyed the test. Your score was amazing. Master Class chess in these first two Tests!!
Name Level Game 1 Game 2 RATING
Steve B. - USA Tourn 2264 2379 2328
You scored 2379 in game 2 and increased your average to 2328!
Hopefully as we go through the centuries there will be some tougher tests for you!
The Turks performance in this game was only ELO 1971 so you probably would have had a chance to beat the Automaton!
We need more volunteers!!
Best regards
Thanks, I am really pleased that you enjoyed the test. Your score was amazing. Master Class chess in these first two Tests!!
Name Level Game 1 Game 2 RATING
Steve B. - USA Tourn 2264 2379 2328
You scored 2379 in game 2 and increased your average to 2328!
Hopefully as we go through the centuries there will be some tougher tests for you!
The Turks performance in this game was only ELO 1971 so you probably would have had a chance to beat the Automaton!
We need more volunteers!!
Best regards
Nick
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Well OTB my rating would be at least 1000 Pts less so i am not going to quit my day jobspacious_mind wrote:
The Turks performance in this game was only ELO 1971 so you probably would have had a chance to beat the Automaton!
at least we know that with 10 different moves between me and the moved played that I am no clone of the Turk!
Wolfgang von Kempelen Sends His Regards
Steve
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Hi Steve,Steve B wrote:Well OTB my rating would be at least 1000 Pts less so i am not going to quit my day jobspacious_mind wrote:
The Turks performance in this game was only ELO 1971 so you probably would have had a chance to beat the Automaton!
at least we know that with 10 different moves between me and the moved played that I am no clone of the Turk!
Wolfgang von Kempelen Sends His Regards
Steve
Well it cannot be too much of a fluke King CM32 512K 30 MHz performs below you
Name Level Game 1 Game 2 RATING
TASC CM 512K KING 2.54 NORMAL 30 Seconds 1987 2142 2073
2073 Average over two tests. I guess the old masters game style does not suit the King and confuses him.
Missing perhaps is the over the board pressure when you play an opponent but I cannot recreate that
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I put the Montreux through its paces in Game 2 at 30 Sec./Avg.
Mephisto
MONTREUX
Johan de Koning
30 Sec Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.Nc3
8.Nc3
9.Nb5
10.Be3
11.Nxe6
12.Nxe6
13.Nxd5
14.Nf3
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Re1
22.Rc1
23.b4
24.Qd4
25.Rxb7+
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
2069
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Bb4+
7. ... Bb4
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Nge7
10. ... Qf6
11. ... Bh3
12. ... Bd7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... bxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bd6
17. ... Bb4
18. ... Bf7
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... Rhe8
21. ... Qf8
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... a6
25. ... Kc8
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
2163
TOTAL SCORE:
2116
Not Bad Regards
Steve
Mephisto
MONTREUX
Johan de Koning
30 Sec Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.Nc3
8.Nc3
9.Nb5
10.Be3
11.Nxe6
12.Nxe6
13.Nxd5
14.Nf3
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Re1
22.Rc1
23.b4
24.Qd4
25.Rxb7+
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
2069
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Bb4+
7. ... Bb4
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Nge7
10. ... Qf6
11. ... Bh3
12. ... Bd7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... bxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bd6
17. ... Bb4
18. ... Bf7
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... Rhe8
21. ... Qf8
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... a6
25. ... Kc8
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
2163
TOTAL SCORE:
2116
Not Bad Regards
Steve
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The Little Excalibur Avenger scores an impressive 1953 with the White pieces but only a modest 1793 overall for game 2:
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Excalibur
Avenger
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.Nc3
8.Ng5
9.Bd3
10.Nd4
11.Nxe6
12.Re1
13.Nxd5
14.Bc4
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Qe1
22.Rd3
23.Qc1
24.Qd4
25.Qd3
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
1974
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Nb4
7. ... Bf5
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Bc5
10. ... Qf6
11. ... Bg4
12. ... Bd7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... Nxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bd6
17. ... Bxd5
18. ... Bxd5
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... Rhe8
21. ... Re4
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... Nc6
25. ... Kxb7
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
1611
TOTAL SCORE:
1793
Avenging Regards
Steve
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Excalibur
Avenger
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.Nc3
8.Ng5
9.Bd3
10.Nd4
11.Nxe6
12.Re1
13.Nxd5
14.Bc4
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Qe1
22.Rd3
23.Qc1
24.Qd4
25.Qd3
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
1974
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Nb4
7. ... Bf5
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Bc5
10. ... Qf6
11. ... Bg4
12. ... Bd7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... Nxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bd6
17. ... Bxd5
18. ... Bxd5
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... Rhe8
21. ... Re4
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... Nc6
25. ... Kxb7
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
1611
TOTAL SCORE:
1793
Avenging Regards
Steve
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I have now added Mephisto Berlin 68000 to both Tests:
http://www.spacious-mind.com/html/berlin_68000.html
ACTIVE LEVEL
Mephisto Berlin scores 2127 playing at 30 seconds per move. Also as expected takes top spot of the so far rated computers.
TOURNAMENT LEVEL
At Tournament Level Mephisto Berlin only slightly improves with a score of 2129.
This is because in the second game Berlin performed slightly worse at tournament level when compared to its active level score.
I will add Montreaux and Avenger after Steve B. has had time to play them through Test Game 1.
Best regards
http://www.spacious-mind.com/html/berlin_68000.html
ACTIVE LEVEL
Mephisto Berlin scores 2127 playing at 30 seconds per move. Also as expected takes top spot of the so far rated computers.
TOURNAMENT LEVEL
At Tournament Level Mephisto Berlin only slightly improves with a score of 2129.
This is because in the second game Berlin performed slightly worse at tournament level when compared to its active level score.
I will add Montreaux and Avenger after Steve B. has had time to play them through Test Game 1.
Best regards
Nick
Ah, wonderful. And as Nick says, an excellent platform for clone testing.
I'll have more to say on this later. Keep it up!
- R.
I'll have more to say on this later. Keep it up!
- R.
"You have, let us say, a promising politician, a rising artist that you wish to destroy. Dagger or bomb are archaic and unreliable - but teach him, inoculate him with chess."
– H.G. Wells
– H.G. Wells
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OK Nickspacious_mind wrote:Hi Steve,
Thanks for the two tests! If you get a chance, can you also please do Test 1 with Montreaux and Avenger.
Best regards,
Nick
Here Ya Go..
The fearless Avenger aquits itself nicely in game one with a combined score of 2052
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Excalibur
Avenger
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
5.Nf3
6.Bxf7+
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.Nb5
10.Qxa7
11.Nxc8
12.0-0
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.Bg5
16.Qxd5
17.Qxd5
18.0-0
19.Rg5
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
WHITE SCORE:
2195
BLACK MOVES
4. ... Nf6
5. ... Bf5
6. ... Bh5
7. ... c6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc4
12. ... Nd6
13. ... Ke7
14. ... Nd7
15. ... exd5
16. ... c5
17. ... Qf6
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
BLACK SCORE:
1909
TOTAL SCORE:
2052
And From The Sleepy Bedroom Community Of Montreux Switzerland :
Mephisto
Montreux
Johan de Koning
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
5.d4
6.Ne5
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.d4
10.d4
11.Bb5+
12.d3
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.0-0
16.Qxd5
17.0-0-0
18.Qxd5
19.0-0
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
WHITE SCORE:
2312
BLACK MOVES
4. ... Nc6
5. ... Bf5
6. ... Bxf3
7. ... Nc6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc4
12. ... Be7
13. ... Ke7
14. ... Nd7
15. ... Qf6
16. ... Qa8
17. ... 0-0
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
BLACK SCORE:
2128
TOTAL SCORE:
2220
Happy New Year Regards
Steve
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I am sure Nick will welcome your usual insightful comments but what he will most certainly welcome ..with open arms .. are some more games played by the computers!Reinfeld wrote:Ah, wonderful. And as Nick says, an excellent platform for clone testing.
I'll have more to say on this later. Keep it up!
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why not run through the first two games with a computer or two from your vast...
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Steve
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The Always Controversial Excalibur Grandmaster(Platinum Edition)
performs decently in game one with 1991 but turns in an anemic performance in game two with a paltry 1740
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Game One
Excalibur
GM(Platinum)
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
5.Nf3
6.Bxf7+
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.Nb5
10.Nxa7
11.Bb5+
12.d4
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.0-0
16.Qxd5
17.Rd1
18.Kf1
19.Qa4
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
WHITE SCORE:
2135
BLACK MOVES
4. ... e5
5. ... c6
6. ... Bxf3
7. ... Nc6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc8
12. ... Bd6
13. ... Ke7
14. ... Nd7
15. ... exd5
16. ... Qf6
17. ... 0-0
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
BLACK SCORE:
1846
TOTAL SCORE:
1991
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Game Two
Excalibur
GM(Platinum)
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.0-0
8.Nc3
9.Bd3
10.Re1
11.Qd3
12.Nxe6
13.Nxd5
14.Bc4
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Rxe8
22.Qd2
23.b4
24.Qb3
25.Qb2
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
1780
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Nb4
7. ... Bb4
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Qg6
11. ... Bh3
12. ... Bf7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... Bxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bb4
17. ... Bxd5
18. ... Bxd5
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... g5
21. ... Re4
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... b6
25. ... Kc8
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
1700
TOTAL SCORE:
1740
Model 747P Regards
Steve
performs decently in game one with 1991 but turns in an anemic performance in game two with a paltry 1740
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Game One
Excalibur
GM(Platinum)
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
5.Nf3
6.Bxf7+
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.Nb5
10.Nxa7
11.Bb5+
12.d4
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.0-0
16.Qxd5
17.Rd1
18.Kf1
19.Qa4
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
WHITE SCORE:
2135
BLACK MOVES
4. ... e5
5. ... c6
6. ... Bxf3
7. ... Nc6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc8
12. ... Bd6
13. ... Ke7
14. ... Nd7
15. ... exd5
16. ... Qf6
17. ... 0-0
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
BLACK SCORE:
1846
TOTAL SCORE:
1991
COMPUTER TEST RESULT
Game Two
Excalibur
GM(Platinum)
30 Sec./Avg.
WHITE MOVES
7.0-0
8.Nc3
9.Bd3
10.Re1
11.Qd3
12.Nxe6
13.Nxd5
14.Bc4
15.Nb5
16.Be3
17.Nbxc7
18.Rxe3
19.Nxd5
20.c4
21.Rxe8
22.Qd2
23.b4
24.Qb3
25.Qb2
26.Rxa7+
27.Qb6+
WHITE SCORE:
1780
BLACK MOVES
6. ... Nb4
7. ... Bb4
8. ... Qf5
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Qg6
11. ... Bh3
12. ... Bf7
13. ... 0-0-0
14. ... Bxc6
15. ... Bd6
16. ... Bb4
17. ... Bxd5
18. ... Bxd5
19. ... Rhe8
20. ... g5
21. ... Re4
22. ... Re4
23. ... Re4
24. ... b6
25. ... Kc8
26. ... Kc8
BLACK SCORE:
1700
TOTAL SCORE:
1740
Model 747P Regards
Steve
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Good timing adding Excalibur Platinum.
Below I have consolidated all the Excalibur's. I am assuming that Steve played with Level 53 which is 30 seconds average. I have added Mirage and Alexandra to the list.
EXCALIBUR LIST FOR TEST GAME 1 - 15TH CENTURY MASTERS
Amazingly best performance in Test 1 is Einstein LCD Chess Wizard and Touch Chess II.
EXCALIBUR LIST FOR TEST GAME 2 - THE TURK
Test 2 looks a lot different with Excalibur Avenger performing best.
Here is the updated overall two test games rating list. I have also added CXG Legend playing level 53 30 seconds average and human players and Masters whose games are being rated.
Alexandra performed really badly in test game 2.
RATING LIST FOR TWO TEST GAMES
Steve B. (Human) still ranks # 1 on the list. Best computer tested so far is Mephisto Montreaux!
Best regards
Below I have consolidated all the Excalibur's. I am assuming that Steve played with Level 53 which is 30 seconds average. I have added Mirage and Alexandra to the list.
EXCALIBUR LIST FOR TEST GAME 1 - 15TH CENTURY MASTERS
Amazingly best performance in Test 1 is Einstein LCD Chess Wizard and Touch Chess II.
EXCALIBUR LIST FOR TEST GAME 2 - THE TURK
Test 2 looks a lot different with Excalibur Avenger performing best.
Here is the updated overall two test games rating list. I have also added CXG Legend playing level 53 30 seconds average and human players and Masters whose games are being rated.
Alexandra performed really badly in test game 2.
RATING LIST FOR TWO TEST GAMES
Steve B. (Human) still ranks # 1 on the list. Best computer tested so far is Mephisto Montreaux!
Best regards
Nick
Well, I had a hard time making the spreadsheet work, so I'll just post the moves here. This is Super Constellation at avg 30s/move:
As White:
5.Nf3
6.Bxf7+
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.Nb5
10.Nxa7
11.Bb5+
12.d4
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.Be3
16.Qxd5
17.Qxd5
18.c3
19.Qa4
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
As Black:
4. ... Nf6
5. ... Nc6
6. ... Bf5
7. ... c6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc4
12. ... Ne7
13. ... Nd7
14. ... Qd7
15. ... exd5
16. ... Qa8
17. ... 0-0
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
- R.
As White:
5.Nf3
6.Bxf7+
7.Qxf3
8.Qxb7
9.Nb5
10.Nxa7
11.Bb5+
12.d4
13.Qc6+
14.Qxb5+
15.Be3
16.Qxd5
17.Qxd5
18.c3
19.Qa4
20.Qxd7+
21.Qd8+
As Black:
4. ... Nf6
5. ... Nc6
6. ... Bf5
7. ... c6
8. ... Nbd7
9. ... Bd6
10. ... Rb8
11. ... Nxc4
12. ... Ne7
13. ... Nd7
14. ... Qd7
15. ... exd5
16. ... Qa8
17. ... 0-0
18. ... c6
19. ... Qe4+
20. ... Kf8
- R.
"You have, let us say, a promising politician, a rising artist that you wish to destroy. Dagger or bomb are archaic and unreliable - but teach him, inoculate him with chess."
– H.G. Wells
– H.G. Wells
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Hi Reinfeld,Reinfeld wrote:Well, I had a hard time making the spreadsheet work, so I'll just post the moves here. This is Super Constellation at avg 30s/move:
- R.
I just updated game one with your result. Super Connie scored 2282! Which makes it the best score by dedicated computers tested so far. If you do get a chance then please also do game too as it would be interesting to see where it ends up. Based on your score it seems that Kittinger's like game 1!
Regarding not being able to use the spreadsheet, which version of Excel are you using. Unfortunately the pop downs etc might not work with later versions but it should work just fine with Version 2010 onwards.
Best regards
Nick