Phoenix Revelation I on eBay

fdimeglio · Post by **fdimeglio** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:47 pm

Hello,

Here it is: http://www.ebay.de/itm/rare-handmade-Ph ... 280wt_1114

Start price is: 3599EUR

It is a nice machine but I think totally overpriced especially when you know that the Revelation II has been just announced by Ruud for about 2800EUR.

Enjoy the bidding.

Fabrice

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:01 pm

Yeah,

Starting bid is to high; better wait for revelation II and at least it will be 800 euros cheaper and with better hardware.

compguy · Post by **compguy** » Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:42 pm

I would be very surprised if it sold. Anyone spending that kind of money would surely have researched and discovered the Revelation II

Jose · Post by **Jose** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 12:50 pm

the seller is some days to late. Now the Rev II is most attractive, and also the price! I also would wondering if it´s sold...
Best José

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:02 pm

Jose wrote:the seller is some days to late. Now the Rev II is most attractive, and also the price! I also would wondering if it´s sold...
Best José

of course i will purchase the Rev ll once it is available for sale
but being a Rev I owner i cant help but have that "Been there done that"
feeling with the Rev ll
aside from piece recognition the engines are all the same at this point
hopefully the new Marvell PXA processor will add at least 300-400 Elo points to the playing strength

Deja Vu All Over Again Regards
Steve

Jose · Post by **Jose** » Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:56 pm

Steve B wrote: aside from piece recognition the engines are all the same at this point
hopefully the new Marvell PXA processor will add at least 300-400 Elo points to the playing strength

correct...and....more beautiful colors and pieces. bigger display, more ram, and modified for the future..i think there are some good reasons for the new one

Best José

Post by **Steve B** » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:09 pm

Jose wrote:
Steve B wrote: aside from piece recognition the engines are all the same at this point
hopefully the new Marvell PXA processor will add at least 300-400 Elo points to the playing strength
correct...and....more beautiful colors and pieces. bigger display, more ram, and modified for the future..i think there are some good reasons for the new one

Best José

Yes all true
still..for this money it would be nice to have something that looks different as well..something totally new to have in my hand if you know what i mean
although beautiful..the Rev l and Rev ll are virtually identical cosmetically
Picky Regards
Steve

Jose · Post by **Jose** » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:01 am

yes, i know what you mean.
Perhaps Rev III

Best José

Post by **Steve B** » Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:40 pm

And Here The Seller tries again to sell it
this time there is a "Reserve Price"
probably very close to the first auctions starting price of 3600 Euro
i guess this guy is clearing the decks for the coming Res II
http://www.ebay.com/itm/rare-handmade-P ... 1012935504

if he really wants to sell he needs to sell it for a price well below the original cost
perhaps 1500-2000 Euro ..take the loss and mark it off as the cost of having and enjoying the board for 2-3 years
no way folks will buy this at as price higher then the coming Res II

Abandoning Ship Regards
Steve

Larry · Post by **Larry** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:15 am

Steve B wrote:
if he really wants to sell he needs to sell it for a price well below the original cost
perhaps 1500-2000 Euro ..take the loss and mark it off as the cost of having and enjoying the board for 2-3 years
no way folks will buy this at as price higher then the coming Res II

Steve

I just dropped a series of bids on it, feeling for the top, but not finding
it.
Larry

Post by **Steve B** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:48 am

Larry wrote:
Steve B wrote:
if he really wants to sell he needs to sell it for a price well below the original cost
perhaps 1500-2000 Euro ..take the loss and mark it off as the cost of having and enjoying the board for 2-3 years
no way folks will buy this at as price higher then the coming Res II

Steve
I just dropped a series of bids on it, feeling for the top, but not finding
it.
Larry

Well its up to 18 bids and 1350 Euro(As I Write)
Reserve STILL not met
my guess is that the bidding will stop at around 1750-2000 Euro ..
the Reserve will NOT be met and we are back to square one

Deja Vu Regards
Steve

SirDave · Post by **SirDave** » Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:59 pm

In most (if not all) circumstances and particularly in this I find a Reserve to be a contrivance. Most people with the sophistication, intelligence and experience to be bidding on a unit like this know that the starting bid is a figment of someone's imagination and has no meaninng whatsoever. And there's something counterproductive (in this case) about people having to try to find out what the real starting point is.

Until proven otherwise, I think the seller is hoping to get the same inflated price, or thereabouts, as with the original failed attempt.

When I first researched the best ways to sell on eBay, a consistent bit of advice was to, almost always, avoid a Reserve. It's simply better to start the bidding at your minimum price-point or start from zero and let the market determine the price. With a very expensive collectible such as this, I think it best to start with your minimum making sure that it coincides with the reality of the market place.

End of Rant Regards,
Dave

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:22 am

SirDave wrote: Until proven otherwise, I think the seller is hoping to get the same inflated price, or thereabouts, as with the original failed attempt.

Totally agree
meanwhile back at the ranch...
another bid comes in raising the price another 100 Euro
Reserve STILL not met

lets see if this Bavaria Lyon 32 can keep pace with the Res I

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Absolute-Selten ... 0799405938
Who's Zooming Who Regards?
Steve

Post by **Steve B** » Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:09 am

Steve B wrote: lets see if this Bavaria Lyon 32 can keep pace with the Res I

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Absolute-Selten ... 0799405938
Steve

Bavaria Lyon 32 jumps into the lead at 1500 while the Res I follows close behind at 1440

A Day At The Races Regards
Steve

Post by **Steve B** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:33 pm

Bavaria Lyon 32 opens up the lead with ...

1610-1440 Regards
Steve