Collector's Corner...On The Fidelity EAG V5

Post by **Steve B** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:35 am

SirDave wrote: I have the Amber (though mine is the male version which may make a difference)

I have it on good authority Dave that Novag only released a Female version of Amber
sorry to say you must have a modified (cross-dressing ) version

Seriously though.. the two games vs Jade II were at the faster TC of Game 30 ..while the games against the Cosmos and Amber were at 40/2 so that is the reason for the wide difference in results
0-2 vs 1.5-.5
however another game vs Miss Amber would only seem fair
V4 gets white in the next game though
will post the game this weekend

Amber Waves Of Grain Regards
Steve

Post by **Steve B** » Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:29 pm

Larry wrote:Just flicked through this game... the knight sac was no masterpiece,
and the Amber would probably not have fallen for it had it had hash
tables. Still, a nice tidy wrap up in the end game by EAG.
LH

Your right about the endgame play
i actually expected Amber to nuisance check the V4 all over the board with her R ..when it was clear she was lost.. but it didnt turn out that way

The Lady Has Class Regards
Steve

Post by **Steve B** » Thu Oct 20, 2011 11:53 pm

Steve B wrote:
however another game vs Miss Amber would only seem fair
V4 gets white in the next game though
will post the game this weekend

In Preparation for the revenge match this weekend
Amber played a training match..Game 10 Min. against the Kasparov Blitz Board
The Blitz board is one of the most unusual chess computers ever sold as it has no
keys or buttons
two dials control all of the functions..the only computer ever to work this way
the board is auto-sensory but not with the usual reed switches
instead the board works by electromagnetic induction from the pieces which work with no other board
and no other pieces will work with the Blitz board
Defect rates for the Blitz board were very high and Saitek released no other Engines in this housing
A Perfect training partner is one that will be easy to beat in order to boost the confidence and here the Blitz fit the bill perfectly
Rated 1729 (Selective Search) it is a good 220 Pts lower then her Majesty ..Amber

In the Game ..
Blitz had White
Amber was first to leave her book after 9 moves
Blitz Could only manage 4 ply at this TC.. while Amber was smokin 6 Ply
Seeing deeper and faster Amber sacks a B to rip open the Blitz K side
Blitz couldn't recover and was soon mated...

[Date "2011.10.20"]
[White "Saitek Blitz "]
[Black "Novag Amber"]
[Time Control "Game/10 Min."]
[Result "0-1"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Nxe4 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5
Be6 9.Nbd2 Nc5 10.c3 Be7 11.Qc2 O-O 12.Rd1 Ra7 13.h3 Qd7 14.Re1 Bf5
15.Qd1 Nd3 16.Re3 Bc5 17.Re2 Nf4 18.Re1 Bxh3 19.g3 Nd3
20.Re2 Re8 21.Nb1 Qg4 22.Re3 Nxc1 23.Qxc1 Nxe5 24.Nd4 Bxd4 25.cxd4 Qxd4
26.Qc6 Raa8 27.Qxd5 Qxb2 28.Rxe5 Qxe5 29.Qxe5 Rxe5 30.Kh2 Bg4 31.Kg2 Re1
32.Bd5 Rd8 33.Bxf7+ Kxf7 34.a4 Rdd1 35.axb5

FINAL POSITION
[fen]8/2p2kpp/p7/1P6/6b1/6P1/5PK1/RN1r2r1 w - - 0 36[/fen]
Amber announces a mate in 2 here

Night At The Blitz Regards
Steve

SirDave · Post by **SirDave** » Fri Oct 21, 2011 1:14 am

Tickets are selling out rapidly. Ringside seats are no longer available. There hasn't been this much attention given to an Amber since Amber and Boston Rob from Survivor. And speaking of the Book, the Las Vegas Book is 2:1 in favor of the........Amber, its previous loss and planned Black position notwithstanding!

Forever Amber (Otto Preminger, 20th Century Fox, 1947) Regards,
Dave

Post by **Steve B** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:49 am

The Revenge Game..

Due to overwhelming Hiarcs Forum membership demand( 1 member)...
The EAG V4 and Novag Amber cross swords once again

The Princess's managers considered it a huge psychological disadvantage
to have to play against another computer that was so much bigger and taller then Amber so they demanded that the
tournament organizers somehow equalize the physical difference in size and height between her and the V4

We met this demand by making her a bit taller ..

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@N ... 0923818481

In the Game ..
40/2... Tournament books
V4 had White
In her training game Vs.the Saitek Blitz board,Amber As Black,humiliated the Blitz in a main line Ruy Lopez
now considering herself an expert in the opening,Amber decides to play the Ruy again
The V4 varies from the training match at move 9 with 9.c3(instead of 9.Nbd2)
Amber was first to leave book after 10 moves
Amber(now sitting face to face with the V4) saddles the V4 with weak doubled P's early on
playing accurately she simplifies the position and exchanges pieces whenever possible and eventually wins both P's
the resulting endgame was a bit tricky but Amber was able to bring home the point

[Date "2011.10.21"]
[White "Fidelity EAG V4"]
[Black "Novag Amber"]
[Time Control "40/2"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Nf6 5.O-O Nxe4 6.d4 b5 7.Bb3 d5 8.dxe5
Be6 9.c3 Bc5 10.Qe2 O-O 11.Bf4 Bf5 12.Kh1 Re8 13.Nbd2 Na5 14.Nxe4 dxe4
15.Ng5 Nxb3 16.Rad1 Nd4 17.cxd4 Bxd4 18.Qc2 c5 19.f3 Qb6 20.fxe4 Bg4
21.Rd3 Qa7 22.Be3 Bxe3 23.Rxe3 Qe7 24.Nf3 Rad8 25.Ra3 Qa7 26.Ng5 Rd7
27.Rd3 h6 28.Nf3 Rxd3 29.Qxd3 Qe7 30.b3 Qc7 31.Qd6 Qxd6 32.exd6 Rxe4
33.Rd1 Bd7 34.Rd5 c4 35.bxc4 Rxc4 36.h3 Rc1+ 37.Kh2 Kf8 38.Ne5 Ke8
39.Rd2 Rc5 40.Nf3 Be6 41.a3 Kd7 42.g4 Bc4 43.Rd4 Bd5 44.Nd2 Kxd6
45.Ne4+ Ke5 46.Nxc5 Kxd4 47.Nxa6 Kc4 48.Nb4 Bb7 49.Nc2 Be4
50.Ne3+ Kb3 51.Kg3 Kxa3 52.Kf4 Bb7 53.Nc2+ Kb2 54.Nd4 b4
55.g5 hxg5+ 56.Kxg5 Kc3 57.Nb5+ Kd3 58.Nc7 Kc4 59.Ne8 f6+
60.Kf4 b3 61.Nd6+ Kc3 62.Nxb7 b2 63.Nc5 b1=Q 64.Ne4+ Kd3
65.Ng3 Qd1 66.h4 g6 67.h5 gxh5

FINAL POSITION
[fen]8/8/5p2/7p/5K2/3k2N1/8/3q4 w - - 0 68[/fen]
V4 was showing -9.99 here so i resigned for it

Height Matters Regards
Steve

SirDave · Post by **SirDave** » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:49 pm

And so, Amber re-affirms her Jade II ancestry. Pretty aggressive play for a princess! Could be several explanations for the difference between this match and the previous one. Most likely one is that since Amber was raised up to her opponent's level, she was given some forewarning as to where the EAG's pieces were going!

Height matters seconded Regards,
Dave

ricard60 · Post by **ricard60** » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:44 pm

Nice games from amber Steve. This machine is over 2000 elo rating and it is a clone of the novag turquoise , it runs with an H8 processor at 26,6 Mhz so it is not a piece of cake.

small but strong regards

Ricardo

danykal · Post by **danykal** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:45 pm

Hi Steve ,

I see that you put my old V5 back to work and I am sure it loved it !
It's funny but I made such tests myself in 91-92 .
After getting interested for the first chess computers mephistos and Challenger I finally got my first in 82 if I remember well ,I got it in NY for about 150 usd ,it was a sensory 9. Then I got a Par Excellence that I still have in its original box and it still works fine but had a lot of bugs specially in problem solving mode , making pieces disappearing and creating others! Then I finally got serious with an EAG V2 in 90 that I paid about 1800 usd which was a fortune at the time , I was quite happy with it but when my father said he will stop at Miami coming from Costa Rica where he was working for the UN , I asked him if he could make a little detour by the Fidelity factory and get me a V5 which was not yet imported in France , he did it and offered it to me . I made then a lot of tests of V2 vs V5 and the poor V2 was losing most of the time, it was not fair the V5 has 2 brains ! Then I contacted a Fidelity manager that my father had met (he had been nice to sell the V5 directly to my father as normally they don't sell to private person but it was to export to France ),and he agreed to send me the motherboard of a V7 against the V2 one , it was called an upgrade and still cost me 1000 usd+ custom but it was still much cheaper than to buy the complete EAG v7 . Then it was the V5 that suffered alot making barely 30 % against this monster V7 , I made about 100 games of V2 vs V5 vs V7 and even a friend lend me a V6 to compete ,all those games where printed on the very nice little fidelity printer I got with the V7 mobo but they finished in the dustbin ,kept only a few (my rare victories !) ,then time passed and i lost interest ,I sold the V7 disguised in V2 (only the 2265 sign ) with the printer for 2000 usd and kept the V5 as it was a gift from my father ,that is also why I kept it for so long. But when I saw last june that a swiss guy sold one for 1780E (not even sending it outside his house !)I resigned myself to sell it as I was using it very seldomly and i thought there was a risc that the electronic fails and then it it would be worth almost nothing !
But doing so ,curiously, woke up again my old passion for chess computers, so I quickly bought an Exclusive Senator but the chinese board and pieces finition really sucked compare to the EAG so I sold it rapidly on ebay and got me an old Exclusive with MMIV , I found the size a little too small and got a Munchen board with MMVI modul which is about my strengh .
But I wanted a Magellan modul which is at my opinion the best deal for Price /strengh (not a collector point of view of course) , I bid on one 14 days ago on ebay.de and won the auction for 478 E
(http://www.ebay.de/itm/280781835059?ssP ... 1497.l2649 ) but I am worried I will never get it as the seller pretend to have send it 10 days ago but he never send me the tracking nb that I asked him several times !
I hope Paypal will get me my money back if it never arrive.
Anyway I am glad you enjoy the V5 which has finally find the hall of fame , the fantastic chess computer collection of yours !
I am now 65 and will retire next year from the university where I taught maths for almost 40 years and as you said ,when I died ,they will be more chess computers for sale on ebay because even if my 3 sons know a little about chess, none of them have the least interest in chess computers !
Best regards
Daniel

Post by **Steve B** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:11 pm

Hi Daniel
thanks for your very interesting post and for your kind words about my collection
i am very satisfied with our transaction for the V5
i only wish you had a V8 also

sorry to read you are having trouble with your auction for the Magellan modules
i hope you do receive it ..if not you can get Ebay involved to follow up for you

you are a little older them i am but not by very much
i guess soon i will have to decide what to do with all of my computers
after all ..i can only be buried with a few of them

Estate Planning Regards
Steve

danykal · Post by **danykal** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:18 pm

Thanks Steve ,
I joined the forum just because you were on it ,and I wanted to tell you the history of this V5 of yours that never passes through a resseller but came directly from the factory.
I am very disappointed by this german guy thoske who don't answer my mails , he had 39 good evals (but mostly as buyer ) and 100% rating,it proves you never can trust anybody on ebay and it's better to pay by Paypal. I saw on ebay a Vancouver 32b modul, starting bid at 300E but it comes from Hungary and nobody has dared to bid yet , I don't think I will either, even if he accept Paypal ,I don't want to file 2 complaints at the same time !
Best regards