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Some curious programs...

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I stumbled on a place -https://dosgamer.com/games/Chess/page2.html- where with already available chess programs you can find in many sites, there are some which I have known existed and could be of interest to you... One of them, by example, is from Checoslovaquia and looks like Chris Doenninger had as part in it too.
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Clicked on it and got “404 PAGE NOT FOUND”
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Larry wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:59 pm Clicked on it and got “404 PAGE NOT FOUND”
Delete the trailing '-' character: https://dosgamer.com/games/Chess/page2.html
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Ok, thanks, got it now. And thanks for a great site. In particular a program called “waxman”. It
brought back memories from about 25 years back. Look forward to tinkering with it again.
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Thanks Fern.
Indeed an interesting spot.
So far I tried Attax and Castle Chess as I was not aware of these. I removed Castle Chess once I discovered it is just a revamped Chess88 by Don Berg...
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Huuhkaja is nice looking and, interestingly, is said to adapt to its opponent thinking time (no level setting, so). From readme.txt file: '-HUUHKAJA try use same time as player.'

Max Rubin lists D Steinwender & C Donninger as authors, maybe a strong one. But not much user friendly for non-Czech-speaking ones (I nevertheless managed to use it after some trials and errors).

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Its maybe a successor of the BASIC chess program listing that was published in CSS and was by steinwender and donninger.
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Tibono2 wrote: Mon Jun 19, 2023 2:45 pm Huuhkaja is nice looking and, interestingly, is said to adapt to its opponent thinking time (no level setting, so). From readme.txt file: '-HUUHKAJA try use same time as player.'
Well, this is indeed what it does - but so badly... Once the program is aware the opponent is using more time (there is an indicator displaying the minutes used as extra-time, red if the player is slower, green if the computer used more time), it expands its search for an additional ply. This can result in the program spending suddenly a very long time, such as 7 minutes for its expanded thought, whilst the opponent was only one or 2 minutes late after a dozen of slightly slower moves (I used 15s/move pace). As a result, the program is now 5 to 6 minutes late compared to the player, thus will play in a hurry during several moves, until reaching again a balanced clock. A large opportunity for blunders...and a major loss of Elo.
Fortunately, the author provided a "move now" feature (space bar hit), so you can (need to!) provide kind assistance to the program, aborting the computation each time the situation occurs. A depth indicator and a progress status enable the user decision to enforce the computer move.
My rough evaluation: high class D to low class C level, assuming this manual assistance is provided.
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