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Steve B wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:00 am Well..Like a Phoenix rising from the Ashes....
the 2100 is now working!

just powered it up and all is well
played a few games and no issues so far

of course i am very skeptical that this will keep up so i am not yet ready to party

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That’s awesome news Steve! Fingers crossed that it will behave going forward.

My hope is that one day we will see some new (somewhat affordable) dedicated computers on the market that incorporate the classic programs, or perhaps a variety of new interesting chess engines (something besides Stockfish, please!), that are tuned to play against club level human players. That may take some of the sting away when the vintage units ultimately fail.

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Thanks Greg

we are now up to 3 consecutive playing sessions with the 2100 performing flawlessly
hopefully this whole affair is behind me

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Steve B wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 4:46 pm
Larry wrote: Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:20 pm Great news…but watch this space…
As I suspected, a dried out soldered joint somewhere around the power input
part of the circuitry. It works cold, but when it starts to heat up the resistance
picks up until the current can’t make it through, at which point it shuts down.
Thanks Larry

To avoid overheating ..perhaps i can set up a small desk fan and point it directly at the spot where the power supply connects to the board
do you think that might help or is it a silly suggestion?

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I advise you something a lot safer. Go to a slaughterhouse and rent a part of the big refrigerators and play there, so the machine will not overheat. For you perhaps a bottle of whiskey to keep well could be also advisable.

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Fernando wrote: Thu Mar 30, 2023 1:28 am
I advise you something a lot safer. Go to a slaughterhouse and rent a part of the big refrigerators and play there, so the machine will not overheat. For you perhaps a bottle of whiskey to keep well could be also advisable.

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Well Fern
im up to 4 playing sessions now (about 8 hrs of playing time) since it went dead and the 2100 is working perfectly

so ill pass on playing in a refrigerator but i will...

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I am glad to report i can end this tale on a happy note

Since the 2100 went dark and came back to life.. i played a good 10 hrs against it and i pit it against various portables (Fidelity Travel Master,Mephisto Rebel 5.0 and Roma II)in 10 min Blitz games ..the 2100 continues to work flawlessly

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What retro programs does it come with?
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ChessChampion2150 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:24 pm What retro programs does it come with?
It has only one program.. by Kate and Dan Spracklen
released for sale in 1986 ..rated about 1875 ELO

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Steve B wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:46 pm
ChessChampion2150 wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:24 pm What retro programs does it come with?
It has only one program.. by Kate and Dan Spracklen
released for sale in 1986 ..rated about 1875 ELO

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Oh I was thinking of the 1200 usd Mephisto Phoenix Chess Computer module.
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Well..Like a Phoenix rising from the Ashes....
the 2100 is now working!

just powered it up and all is well
played a few games and no issues so far

of course i am very skeptical that this will keep up so i am not yet ready to party

Back In The Saddle(For Now) Regards
Hi Steve,
I think the EAGs have already caused so many problems that, in order to have some peace of mind, I sold them all, just keeping A/S budapest and glasgow 10 MHz.
I am of the opinion that the EAG was a design error, notwithstanding the two clocks that make this machine something to love.
In all EAG machines there are intertwined wires that came from the factory in this way, leaving a horrible look on these boards.
I think these threads are due to bugs that were introduced into the machines to fix the bugs.
Reeds then, these ampoules always burned, open and close to access the reed exchanges.
apologies for the bad english.
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dedicate computers wrote: Hi Steve,
I think the EAGs have already caused so many problems that, in order to have some peace of mind, I sold them all, just keeping A/S budapest and glasgow 10 MHz.
I am of the opinion that the EAG was a design error, notwithstanding the two clocks that make this machine something to love.
In all EAG machines there are intertwined wires that came from the factory in this way, leaving a horrible look on these boards.
I think these threads are due to bugs that were introduced into the machines to fix the bugs.
Reeds then, these ampoules always burned, open and close to access the reed exchanges.
apologies for the bad english.
Oswald
Hi Oswald
yes i must admit there are always problems with the EAG series..usually the reed switches as you mentioned
and yet...of all the computers in my collection i play with the EAG's far more then the others
i have always used them more then the others
i guess it mimic's life itself ...where we are most attracted to those that cause us the most problems

Your English Was Perfect Regards
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Hi Oswald
yes i must admit there are always problems with the EAG series..usually the reed switches as you mentioned
and yet...of all the computers in my collection i play with the EAG's far more then the others
i have always used them more then the others
i guess it mimic's life itself ...where we are most attracted to those that cause us the most problems

Your English Was Perfect Regards
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Hi Steve,
In fact it was the best explanation I've ever read about the problems in the EAGs. In fact, the Elites imitate life, perhaps the things we most desire are bumped into problems and so we walk on.
good luck with EAG 2100 regards
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Steve B wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 2:36 pm I am glad to report i can end this tale on a happy note

Since the 2100 went dark and came back to life.. i played a good 10 hrs against it and i pit it against various portables (Fidelity Travel Master,Mephisto Rebel 5.0 and Roma II)in 10 min Blitz games ..the 2100 continues to work flawlessly
Here is a game Vs. the Roma II
Both computers out of book at move 9
an odd endgame with the 2100 as White..up 2R's +p Vs.R+4p's:

[Date "2023.4.15"]
[White "EAG 2100"]
[Black "Roma II"]
[TimeControl "10 Minute Blitz"]
[Result "0-1*"]




FINAL POSITION



2100 Resigns here

Working Great (But Not Such A Great Player)Regards
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Here is a game Vs. the Roma II
Both computers out of book at move 9
an odd endgame with the 2100 as White..up 2R's +p Vs.R+4p's:
Hello
I have doubts about the natural strength of the machines, considering that they are often tied to the strength of the processor.
On one occasion I asked Richard Lang about the differences on the dalla series, roma, etc... he told me, confirming what he expected, the same program, with some improvements.
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Just One more game to verify that the 2100 is still working

the only thing remarkable about this game is that my Fidelity Travel Master still works
the Tmaster's claim to Infamy is that it had the highest defect rate of any dedicated chess computer ever sold(some where around 90%)

both computers somehow manage to not break during the entire game with the Tmaster pulling off a convincing win

[Date "2023.4.18"]
[White "EAG 2100"]
[Black "Travel Master"]
[TimeControl "10 Minute Blitz"]
[Result "0-1"]





https://www.flickr.com/photos/10261668@ ... ateposted/


A Rare Game With No Frustrating Defects Regards
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Just One more game to verify that the 2100 is still working

the only thing remarkable about this game is that my Fidelity Travel Master still works
the Tmaster's claim to Infamy is that it had the highest defect rate of any dedicated chess computer ever sold(some where around 90%)

both computers somehow manage to not break during the entire game with the Tmaster pulling off a convincing win
Hi
This is rare, you have to celebrate, mine looks like it was manufactured yesterday, nothing works.
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