Cheating Allegation

[X__Gandalf__X]

I don't understand the cheating allegation. Can somebody please explain?

https://flipboard.com/@TheGuardian/-mag ... ardian.com

[Tibono2]

Hi, the game is available in the latest TWIC batch (#1452).
I ran a computer analysis using deep HIARCS 15.1, two cores, 5secs per move and the final statement was: White loses 0.27 pawn per move (1 mistake, 8 inaccuracies), Black loses 0.05 pawn per move (2 inaccuracies).
So black's performance (Niemann's) has been close to perfect. I suspect it is the reason for the allegation.
Tibono

[Murat]

It is about Hans Niemann allegedly cheating. After he beat Carlsen with black.
No proof or evidence given so far. Bunch of eccentric super GM paranoia.

Show me the proof regards

Murat

Edit: did not see Tibono's post ahead of me

[Steve B]

Wasn't this an OTB game?
opponents sitting face to face
the whole world focused on Carlsen's game and every move
hard to imagine how Niemann could have cheated?
listening device in his ear?
someone signaling him from the playing hall?
went to the toilet too many times??

Sour Grapes Regards?
Steve

[fourthirty]

Yesterday he admitted to cheating during an online tournament when he was 12, and then again during an unrated game when he was 16.

However, he states he is now "clean" and has never cheated during an OTB tournament:

https://youtu.be/CJZuT-_kij0?t=938

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/ ... -now-clean

“If they want me to strip fully naked, I will do it,” said Niemann. “I don’t care. Because I know I am clean. You want me to play in a closed box with zero electronic transmission, I don’t care. I’m here to win and that is my goal regardless.”

Not sure if that would Increase or Decrease Ratings Regards,
Greg

[fourthirty]

Wasn't this an OTB game?
opponents sitting face to face
the whole world focused on Carlsen's game and every move
hard to imagine how Niemann could have cheated?
listening device in his ear?
someone signaling him from the playing hall?
went to the toilet too many times??

Sour Grapes Regards?
Steve

Sorry Steve...

But it appears Elon Musk has discovered a theory.

Spoiler - it is not "in his ear"...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/156 ... dMxk5ZNZIg

In the R-ear Regards,
Greg

[Steve B]

But it appears Elon Musk has discovered a theory.

Spoiler - it is not "in his ear"...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/156 ... dMxk5ZNZIg

In the R-ear Regards,
Greg

Well i guess there are ways to ....

Plug That Loop "Hole" Regards
Steve

[fourthirty]

What the heck is going on???

https://lichess.org/broadcast/julius-ba ... 8/PXPXx0da

[fourthirty]

What the heck is going on???

https://lichess.org/broadcast/julius-ba ... 8/PXPXx0da

"19-year-old Hans Niemann today AGAIN defeated the World Chess Champion Magnus Carlsen, in the 6th round of the Julius Baer Generation Cup, as Magnus Carlsen resigned his game in the second move. Carlsen went offline as soon as he resigned, and it is questionable if he will continue playing the Julius Baer Generation Cup."

https://www.chessdom.com/magnus-carlsen ... cond-move/

Resignation regards,
Greg

[mclane]

Carlsen is very consequent. He believes this guy is a cheater and he will not play a cheater.

[Steve B]

Why even play the first move ?
Carlsen thinks Niemann is a cheater so he should just refuse to play him ....
not getting the ...make your first move ..then quit.. thingie

Proper Quitting Etiquette Regards
Steve

[Murat]

Hi Steve,

he was under contract to play this game.

This was signed long time ago so resigning at the earliest possible move was his only option without breaching the contract.

Those darn contracts regards

Murat

[mclane]

Which part of the event is you don’t understand??

Would you play someone who is a betrayer ??

[Steve B]

Hi Steve,

he was under contract to play this game.

This was signed long time ago so resigning at the earliest possible move was his only option without breaching the contract.

Those darn contracts regards

Murat

Hi Murat
I see..well i guess he was complying with the letter but not the spirit of the contract
thanks for the explanation

Form Over Substance Regards
Steve

[fourthirty]

Carlsen is very consequent. He believes this guy is a cheater and he will not play a cheater.

I agree this seems to be the case. However, for the sport of chess, would not it be better for him to publicly clarify his position on the issue (as world champion)? Is Magnus concerned about past online events, or does he believe Hans was cheating in the recent OTB tournament? If it was concern over past events, why did Magnus play the entire game against Hans at the Sinquefield Cup? What is the the theory/evidence for OTB cheating at Sinquefield?

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1 ... wYHU0Xy1VA

I am not a supporter of Hans. However, it seems the silence is fueling much speculation.