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by spacious_mind
Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:01 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Interesting is that there are some differences so it's possible that Atlanta's move randomness kick's in on occasions. Interesting indeed. The randomness is off by default so I think that would have been the same. Pondering is on by default - do we know if anything can be updated in the hash tables...
by spacious_mind
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:39 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Hi Gordon, As 5 of the tests go back to 2017 but revamped with new evaluations, I spotted that Atlanta was played at 30 seconds by someone back then, It could have been me or someone else as several people did some tests. Interesting is that there are some differences so it's possible that Atlanta's...
by spacious_mind
Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:45 am
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Views: 507

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Hi Everyone

Eric found a couple dropdown glitches on game 6 and game 10. These are now fixed. Can you all please go back to page 1 and download the zips again and use the latest sheets. Hopefully we are now completely bug free. If you do spot one, then please let me know.

Best regards
Nick
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:41 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Views: 507

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Hi Nick, Sorry I must have made a mistake with the 30 sec test. 19. ... Bxf4 is not reproducible. 19. ... Qe4+ is the move at 30 secs. Are you ok to change that? Hi Gordon, No problems, I corrected it. Atlanta score at 30S is now 2735. I reuploaded the set so can you download it again. Atlanta is a...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:50 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Views: 507

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That is perfect thanks! You can do it simpler as well which also works for me as per the below snippet: SAITEK SPARC DAN & KATHE SPRACKLEN LEVEL F3 TOURNAMENT SPARC -32 BIT - 20 MHZ - 256 KB ROM - 1024 KB RAM RAM TOTAL SCORE: 2996 WHITE MOVES 5.Nf3 6.Bxf7+ 7.Qxf3 8.Qxb7 9.Nb5 10.Nxa7 11.Bb5+ Ju...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:07 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Hi Gordon Btw, Atlanta's weaker brother GK2000 scored higher than expected, therefore being a Morsch I suspect Atlanta will as well. In a perfect world it should come behind TM Lyon and even V11, but I suspect since V11 scored badly in one of the games and needs more games to catch up that Atlanta w...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:38 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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I tried testing game 1 with Mephisto Atlanta at 30 seconds/move. That was interesting to go through. Hi Gordon, See as I wrote about earlier the tests should be easy, fast and fun, well not so fast at 3 minutes. Atlanta's game 1 score is in line with all the other tested ones as game 1 scores highl...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:26 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
Replies: 29
Views: 507

Re: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School

Hi Everyone

In some of the game records tabs I had a few that we locked too strongly which would stop you from using those tabs as game records. Sorry about that. Please go back and reupload the test sheets.

Best regards
Nick 
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:02 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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What ELO stat and other systems cannot do is lay out right next to each other move by move what the computers played, compare and even rate their move weakness move by move. You can see the good moves and blunders forever right next to each other. I downloaded the zip of test results. When I look a...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:35 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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This is indeed great work. I see that some of the tested computers have an emulation within CB Emu Pro. So I was wondering if any of this effort could be automated. The test games can be converted to a list of EPDs. Then within MessChess/Arena, it's possible to do auto analysis of the list of EPDs....
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 12:30 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Views: 507

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I know it's work but now that we have the 30 seconds games, it would be extremely useful to also have 3-minute games for Boris, CC7, CC10, Delta-1 and Conic. A) Because except for possibly Boris ratings for those computers don't exist today anywhere in the World at TM B) it would be good to see if t...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:32 am
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Beyond results, I think playing the test games is also much fun thanks to the Elo Sneak capability. Warm regards to all, Eric Hi Eric, I never mentioned to you but when I created the ELO Sneak, I also used it as a backward way of checking the scoring results of the original calculations to make sur...
by spacious_mind
Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:10 am
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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Hello Nick, you are doing great work, thank you for all the effort. If it can be of any help, I would be happy to run some tests with some of my machines, let me know. Yes of course, please test any computer you want to and thank you for your offer. I think to avoid duplicated work at least for now...
by spacious_mind
Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:47 pm
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Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
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What I should have mentioned is that my tests compare time based playing strengths in a closed Universe not game performances against other computers as you would see in other rating lists. However, in order to allow chess players to visualize this and compare against what they are used to seeing I ...
by spacious_mind
Tue Apr 23, 2024 5:15 pm
Forum: Main Lobby / General Discussions
Topic: Spacious Mind's Renaissance School
Replies: 29
Views: 507

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Firstly, I want to thank you for all your great efforts and sharing them. I have referred to your work on countless occasions and always appreciate it. I think your approach of analysing games and scoring is very interesting indeed. I don't think there is a single right method of testing and it is ...